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Forum topic by UpstateNYdude posted 08-18-2016 03:17 PM 503 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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08-18-2016 03:17 PM

Just curious if anyone has tried the Dollar store LA Awesome Concentrated cleaner to remove rust from hand tools at all, it says its a citrus based formula so just curious if it works as good as the canning citrus powder I normally buy or better.

-- Nick, "Choking to death on bacon is like getting murdered by your lover." - JG


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#1 posted 08-18-2016 03:31 PM

Haven’t tried it but for a Dollar , it can’t hurt to try.

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#2 posted 08-18-2016 04:19 PM

Yeah I’m going to get some and try it, but was just curious to see if anyone did already and how well it worked.

-- Nick, "Choking to death on bacon is like getting murdered by your lover." - JG

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#3 posted 08-18-2016 07:58 PM

I don’t know about cleaning rust but we use it on our 5th wheel to remove the black streaks.
It’s hard to beat for a buck.

-- Chem, Central California

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#4 posted 08-19-2016 09:21 PM

I use the citrus degreaser from Home Depot and it is highly effective on grease, tar, and grime in general but only mildly effective against rust. All acids will remove rust, the more acidic, the faster it works. The question is whether the cleaner is really citrus based (acidic) or just has citrus flavoring. The MSDS might have some clues … first aid is drink milk which suggest acidity.

My belief is that The Works Toilet Bowl Cleaner, also available at the dollar store, is more acidic and will remove rust faster.

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#5 posted 08-22-2016 04:27 PM


My belief is that The Works Toilet Bowl Cleaner, also available at the dollar store, is more acidic and will remove rust faster.

- Rick M.

It is and I’m sure it does but using Citric acid I’ve never had to worry about how long I leave it in, I’ve had The Works start eating through stuff at the 2 hour mark.

-- Nick, "Choking to death on bacon is like getting murdered by your lover." - JG

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#6 posted 08-22-2016 04:36 PM

Yeah Works is HCL, if you’re forgetful it’s not the way to go. It’s for: ‘I’m in my shop and want to de-rust it now;’ not drop it in and get it whenever. Also good for removing coatings from hardware, screws, etc.

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#7 posted 08-22-2016 11:20 PM

If you’ve never had citric acid start to eat through and pit you’ve been lucky. About the only product I’ve heard to be completely safe is evapo-rust. I’m sure there are other like it, but be careful with citric acid as well. Even with evapo-rust, make sure the piece is completely submerged or you’ll forever know where the water mark was.

I did a small test for different techniques here. Not completely in line with the conversation, but may help, http://www.timetestedtools.net/2016/02/29/restoration-technique-comparisons/

All this is worse on steel, so I’ll never put a blade in any kind of acid what so ever.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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#8 posted 08-23-2016 12:39 AM

Yep, life requires mindfulness. Pay attention to what you are doing.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#9 posted 08-23-2016 03:33 PM



If you ve never had citric acid start to eat through and pit you ve been lucky. About the only product I ve heard to be completely safe is evapo-rust. I m sure there are other like it, but be careful with citric acid as well. Even with evapo-rust, make sure the piece is completely submerged or you ll forever know where the water mark was.

I did a small test for different techniques here. Not completely in line with the conversation, but may help, http://www.timetestedtools.net/2016/02/29/restoration-technique-comparisons/

All this is worse on steel, so I ll never put a blade in any kind of acid what so ever.

- Don W

Just curious how long was it in the citric acid before that damage happened? I’ve used some canning citric acid and I think I left mine to soak for almost an entire day and nothing happened to any of the 3 planes I did.

The Works I only use if it is heavily rusted, but that stuff is toxic to no end, I have to do those dips outside on my patio and still wear a respirator near it. It chewed through the cheek of a heavily rusted no. 3 on me, the whole top round was basically disintegrated in about 2 hours.

-- Nick, "Choking to death on bacon is like getting murdered by your lover." - JG

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#10 posted 08-23-2016 10:12 PM

I suppose how concentrated the citric acid is has an effect, and I’ve noticed differences in different brands, but I’ve seen it happen in a couple hours. I’ve ruined a couple of blades pretty quickly, as I said, I never put blades in acid any more. I’m sure the quality of the steel plays a role.

I use the works once in a while to, but I also do it outside. I won’t use it in my shop. It’ll rust stuff 10 feet away.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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