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When is 5/16" not 5/16"?

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Olaf Gradin

61 posts in 735 days


699 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: t-bolts jig measurement

In the continuing saga of inexact things like dimensions and numbers, I’ve found another curious example. On a 5/16” bolt, what exactly is 5/16”? It’s not the diameter – I’ll tell you that.

Take a look at the attached pictures and help me understand how to pick out the appropriate bolt for my application…

5/16

5/16

5/16

-- It takes a viking to raze a village. &mdash Blog'r: http://www.gradin.com

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Peter O

1023 posts in 770 days


699 days ago

Your calipers appear to be reading 3/16”.

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Olaf Gradin

61 posts in 735 days


699 days ago

True enough! I didn’t realize how to read them – I was reading the outside ring as 64ths, which is the source of my problem. That would explain some similar problems I’ve had too. Maybe I should switch to day-shift woodworking…

-- It takes a viking to raze a village. &mdash Blog'r: http://www.gradin.com

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Karson

25802 posts in 1296 days


699 days ago

These fancy machines that make you have to calculate and convert.

-- What happens in the workshop stays in the workshop. No wait that doesn't sound right. Karson Southern Delaware karson_morrison@bigfoot.com †

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Peter O

1023 posts in 770 days


699 days ago

Believe me, I’ve misread my share of measurements during the day-shift!

My calipers only have 100ths on the dial, so I have to have a conversion chart on the wall … I can’t remember the decimal equivelant of 17/32!

-- http://www.north40custom.com -- http://north40studios.etsy.com --

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Dan Lyke

607 posts in 1021 days


698 days ago

Others have pointed out the conversion error, but I’d toss out there that far too often we measure as though the number is the important thing. Why not make the slot the width you feel comfortable with, measure the inside as you have, keep the calipers at that width and go find a bolt that fits between the other fingers of the calipers?

In most cases in woodworking the numbers aren’t nearly as important as the “feel” of the piece, and often I don’t get that ‘til after I’m making sawdust.

-- Dan Lyke, Petaluma California, http://www.flutterby.net/User:DanLyke

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Brad_Nailor

1218 posts in 853 days


698 days ago

Geez, if I only had a dollar for every time I misread my tape or a pair of calipers…or the dial on a machine, etc. etc. Whats that old adage…measure twice, cut once, still f**k it up! As far as the calipers are concerned, get yourself a set that reads in fractions. When I worked in a cabinet shop my boss forced me to use only decimal calipers..he had some European machines ( planer, panel saw, shaper) and he wanted me to get used to doing conversions. I hated it..I was always staring at a conversion chart, and double and triple checking myself on measurements.

This is the one I have..its well made, accurate, and it also has the decimal gauge in the center
http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1047&HS=1

-- David, South Windsor, CT "I love the smell of sawdust in the morning"

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Critterman

546 posts in 706 days


698 days ago

I completely agree with Dave, sometimes no matter how many times you measure….. And again, you can do what I did….get the calipers for dummies [smile] with the large LCD readout and fractions, but then sometimes I still manage to find a way to do it wrong…LOL

-- Jim Hallada, Chesterfield, VA

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relic

342 posts in 832 days


698 days ago

Here is a page I use at work:
http://icrank.com/cgi-bin/pageman/pageout.cgi?path=/data/screw/screw_source.htm&t=2

Use the drop down and select a screw size.

-- Andy Stark

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mski

360 posts in 876 days


698 days ago

Here’s what a scatterbrain like me uses, get them free at metal supply stores.
Everthing is there from numeric bits to Metric all aligned for instant reference!

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z27/mskiba2/ROUTERSTATION039.jpg

-- MARK IN BOB, So. CAL

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