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Forum topic by MrRon posted 08-17-2016 12:19 AM 1468 views 0 times favorited 34 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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08-17-2016 12:19 AM

Topic tags/keywords: jig

These people must be nuts! They have come out with “the ultimate doweling jig”; cost: $600. It may do what it is promised to do, but $600; no way. One can make a simple jig for next to nothing to do the same thing. I don’t think they will be selling too many of them. Even at half the price, it is still way out of reason to spend so much money for just a jig. That is the cost of many high quality tools like band saws, wood lathes, drill presses, etc. Who do they think they are; Festool? I’m not trashing the tool; only the ridiculous price.
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#1 posted 08-17-2016 12:24 AM

Ahh! A man of my own heart!

I am also flabbergasted at the insane cost of some things.

Although some of the Robert Sorby cutting chisels at $130 for a set of three is a very HIGH PRICE. My oldest bought a set and I got a test drive—They are wonderful. BUT STILL WAY TOO MUCH MONEY, for a P.B. like me.

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#2 posted 08-17-2016 02:04 AM

I will pass, do not do much if any dowel work. But I do agree 600$ seems like I am buying a Rolls Royce or something when I just need a Chevy to get me to work.

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#3 posted 08-17-2016 02:35 AM

Ditto all, nuts, $600+!!!

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#4 posted 08-17-2016 02:54 AM

A router & straight bit will do the same thing. So will a lathe & your patience. Let the hot shots spend their money!!

-- Sawdust703

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#5 posted 08-17-2016 02:56 AM

Not for me (I never have used the 70$ doweling jig in 5 years) but I have absolutely no issue with them charging whatever they can get for the product. For many knowing that you can buy the product and it work as intended and built from materials to be accurate and last almost indefinitely would make the price of little importance. If it meets the needs for some and cuts time off projects may pay for itself in short order.

It would be interesting to know how many they expect to sell.

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#6 posted 08-17-2016 05:31 AM

Wait until you see what Festool charges for their doweling machine! :)

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#7 posted 08-17-2016 05:37 AM

Like you guys I think woodpecker comes up with some outrageous prices for some their stuff. I’ve got a couple of their things but I just can’t justify buying everything they offer.

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#8 posted 08-17-2016 05:53 AM

That $600 would go a long way towards purchasing a Domino.

Looking at the device, I can easily believe that they need to sell it for $600 to make a profit. But the number of applications where a super fancy doweling jig is needed are limited. Commercial cabinet shops use large doweling machines so they don’t need these sorts of jigs.

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#9 posted 08-17-2016 11:00 AM

I have always been a fan of Woodpeckers and their fine line of products. I have purchase several of their one time tools and own two of their top quality PRL V2 router lifts. I am sure that their new doweling jig is a top quality tool too, in line with the product quality of all of their tools. But to put the price in perspective, I can purchase a new PRL V2 lift and a PC 7518 motor on sale for it for just a few bucks more. I think that my friends at Woodpeckers may have finally placed an item in a price category that really makes no sense. If they need this price point to profit on the tool, than the tool is over engineered; and to me, it’s intended use does not justify such a high price point. I will continue to buy from Woodpeckers when the price of the item can be justified by it’s intended use for me. BTW, I own no Festool products for the same reason. A terrific line of tools, top quality; but I can’t justify spending the kind of money that they are getting for products. I have used their Kapex miter saw and think that it is underpowered and certainly not worth $1500+. These are my humble opinions based on my personal experience.

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#10 posted 08-17-2016 11:09 AM

It is a nice tool but outrageously priced.

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#11 posted 08-17-2016 11:40 AM

I have often wondered if they don’t also make a few of these items to drive sells on their lesser price item.

I figure a few things are in effect. First I don’t think most of us are the intended market to begin with and not the one they have carved out in the niche market of woodworking. We won’t buy the high dollar item but the next item they release at 125 guys will jump on because of the perceived value, name, etc..

I believe the nature of some woodworkers with the “badge” mentality also will grab sales. They acquire tools frequently just because it signifies they are a woodworker. Things that can be bought in sets, collections, etc… even more so.

Finally you frequently see “branded” branded type people. If they can just get one or two products in their hands they will buy most of their stuff to keep the color the same in the shop.

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ScottM

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#12 posted 08-17-2016 11:59 AM

I get their emails too. I’m always taken in by the machining and finish of their products but have yet to spend that kind of money on ANY of them. Even when they have the simple products, like a ruler or square, outrageous! But they are pretty to look at.

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#13 posted 08-17-2016 03:07 PM

Hey you get $5 off when you sign up for their newsletter! A real bargain!

-- -Will

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#14 posted 08-17-2016 03:50 PM



Not for me (I never have used the 70$ doweling jig in 5 years) but I have absolutely no issue with them charging whatever they can get for the product. For many knowing that you can buy the product and it work as intended and built from materials to be accurate and last almost indefinitely would make the price of little importance. If it meets the needs for some and cuts time off projects may pay for itself in short order.

It would be interesting to know how many they expect to sell.

- TravisH


I guess if your in a Production Shop and doing a couple hundred dowels a day it could well be worth the price , but I have only done 3 or 4 dowels in the last 10 years so it’s not for me.

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#15 posted 08-17-2016 04:14 PM

It’s hard to argue with the quality of Woodpeckers stuff or that it’s made in the U.S.A. I have a few of their items and am very happy with all of them. I won’t be getting the doweling gig as I just don’t use Dowels that often but I do think the variable spacing is kind of neat and the ability to space the jig in the middle of a piece of work would be handy at times.

Woodpecker makes really high quality items for a premium price. If it’s something you use a lot it’s probably worth it but if it’s only something you will use once in a great while it’s probably not worth the price to put on your shelf to have around the few times a year you need it. There are plenty of other ways to solve the problem that might not be as elegant but much less expensive for occasional use.

I would rank their squares and straight edge’s in quality and precision against anything out there.

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