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Mary Anne

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1542 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: question hardware

Is there such a thing as a slide/glide that works like a drawer slide only vertically? If so, what are they called and where can I find them?

Here is what I want to do:
I had this thought of building a spice rack that would fit on the back of the door of a upper cabinet that is too high to reach without a step stool. The idea is to have the spice rack pull straight down to eye level to make selection easy, then glide (probably spring assisted) back up and lock into its out of the way position on the back of the door.

Is there such a piece of hardware or perhaps an alternative way of accomplishing this? I sure would appreciate help accomplishing my little project.

Thanks!


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a1Jim

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#1 posted 1542 days ago

Hey Mary Anne
Just a normal flat stile glide will work but you will have to put some kind of peg or stop on it to keep it from sliding down all the time.

like this style

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=21474

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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Jerry

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#2 posted 1542 days ago

I have never seen anything like what you describe.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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Dennisgrosen

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#3 posted 1542 days ago

Mary Anne
just two normal drawerglide would do the trick
not so longe ago someone posted a boxthing where he hide his television
and here raise and lower it with a wire and two drawerglides

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Mary Anne

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#4 posted 1542 days ago

Thanks, fellas! I especially appreciate the link, Jim.
I am surprised there isn’t such a thing available for this specific application. It would come in handy for so many storage solutions. Don’t you just hate it when you come up with a good idea and no one has invented it yet? ;)

Next question, then, would be a way to add a spring assist for raising something on a drawer glide. As I understand it, the self-closers really don’t have that much pull, do they? I probably won’t have 100 lbs of spices as the glide Jim recommends is rated for, but it would be nice to be able to use as light a touch as possible for raising it back into place. I was thinking something spring-loaded sort of like a retractable hose reel. Or maybe a counter balance of some sort? Or maybe I am making it more complicated than it really is!!

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a1Jim

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#5 posted 1542 days ago

Mary Anne
That was just the style I was pointing out your right you don’t need a 100lb rated slide.
I think you could just mount a small block of wood with a 1/4” piece of wooden dowel or metal pin and have go into the side of the spice rack that would be mounted on the track that way you could lock it in place or even have different heights you could set the spice rack at.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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BOB67CAM

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#6 posted 1542 days ago

u could try those drawer slides that keep the drawer from slamming, im not sure how powerful it is but just for spices maybe that would hold, and ud have to pull it down and push it up but ud have to do it anyways ;)
next thought is talk to someone about making them and make some money from the idea

-- if you dont have it, build it, especially when its a stupid idea

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KayBee

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#7 posted 1542 days ago

I had a similar idea for my mom. All I could think of was those sewing machine/tv lift things. To big and way too expensive. Thanks for starting this, mom may get some extra storage after all!

-- Karen - a little bit of stupid goes a long way

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hazbro

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#8 posted 1542 days ago

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=10842

Pull-Down Shelving System, 5PD Series
there are all sorts of cabinet lift type hardware. for the doors, racks, and even one for a kitchen aid.

-- measure once, keep cuttin' til it fits

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Mary Anne

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#9 posted 1542 days ago

KayBee
The only thing I found online that comes remotely close is this Rev-a-Shelf unit. Too big and bulky and takes up too much cabinet space for my purposes, but maybe something that would help your mom.

I also found this pull down spice rack, but it is just cheap plastic crap and not enough storage.

DaveR
Now you’re talking, Dave. Could you refer me to an example of the sliding chest stays? Meanwhile, I’ll look into sash counterweights. Good ideas!

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tdv

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#10 posted 1542 days ago

Mary Anne the only trouble with what you are proposing is that the weight will vary as you will have to balance in the neutral if you use some of the spices it will not stay down & if you over fill the jars it will not stay up so I think the best solution would be something like Jim suggests a locking mechanism of sorts perhaps a bullet catch fitted into the back of the spice rack with 2 or more detents inthe door back for the ball to locate into
God bless
Trevor

-- God created wood that we may create. Trevor East Yorkshire UK

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Mary Anne

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#11 posted 1542 days ago

Thank a lot, everyone! I appreciate the thought you put into this. Now I have a few ideas how it might work. Unless someone chimes in with another idea, I’ll probably start simple with the drawer glide and add a pulley and counterweight if needed. A dowel or maybe a sliding spring bolt to hold it in position. Or maybe magnets.

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TopamaxSurvivor

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#12 posted 1542 days ago

A sliding dovetail would work. Hide a couple springs or a counterweight behind the rack. It could have a catch a the bottom, just pull out to release.

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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Mary Anne

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#13 posted 1542 days ago

Thanks, Bob, that’s another really good idea. Making it a wooden joint is appealing.

It sounds so simple coming from you guys. :)
I have gained so much knowledge and confidence since I signed on here.

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#14 posted 1542 days ago

I concur with TopamaxSurvivor and am of the opinion that a well-cut sliding dovetail coupled to a pair of strong rare-earth magnets to keep it locked in place would be the optimal KISS solution (an thus the best).

Essentially, the drawer slide would allow too much freedom when pulling it down and a properly sized dovetail would avoid the dangerous freewheling effect.

Counterweight was also the first solution that came to my mind but think Occam’s Razor and make yourself a favor avoiding future maintenance and complications.

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NormG

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#15 posted 1542 days ago

I saw one of those a number of years ago. I believe it was a T-Slot application.

-- Norman

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