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Woodster73

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08-10-2016 12:11 PM

I have been pleased with the performance of the Ridgid R4513 since I picked it up at Christmas last year. My issue is the zero clearance insert or dado insert. Can’t find one, Ridgid doesn’t make one. The insert on this saw is metal and about 1/8 inch thick, riding on tabs with small screws in the tabs to adjust the height. It also has a small tab on the back side that holds the end in and magnets on the front that snap the insert down.

Anybody make one specifically for this saw, would love some suggestions.

Thanks


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toolie

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#1 posted 08-10-2016 12:30 PM

Get some 1/4” mdf or plywood and make ZCIs. Just don’t use your fence when cutting the blade slot in the ZCI.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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#2 posted 08-10-2016 09:03 PM

Maybe this would fit?

http://www.woodcraft.com/product/153117/ridgid-r4512-table-saw-zeroclearance-blade-insert.aspx

They also have a dado blank:

http://www.woodcraft.com/product/153118/ridgid-r4512-table-saw-zeroclearance-dado-insert.aspx

I used to own the 4510 followed by the 3650. I used Woodcraft ZCI blanks back then. Worked very well.

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Woodster73

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#3 posted 08-10-2016 09:08 PM

Jon,

Unfortunately those inserts for the previous Ridgid saw won’t work, as Ridgid changed the shape of the insert to a rectangular one, so most of the current aftermarket including for the other Ridgid saws won’t fit.

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Woodster73

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#4 posted 08-10-2016 09:09 PM

Actually I did find that Ridgid sells a dado insert, but not a zero clearance one.

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#5 posted 08-11-2016 03:32 PM

Make a few. Once you have a template making more is a breeze. Matthias Wadel on youtube has a great video as well as others.

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

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Jon Hobbs

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#6 posted 08-11-2016 04:27 PM


Jon,

Unfortunately those inserts for the previous Ridgid saw won t work, as Ridgid changed the shape of the insert to a rectangular one, so most of the current aftermarket including for the other Ridgid saws won t fit.

- Woodster73

Boo to Ridgid!

-- Jon -- Just a Minnesota kid hanging out in Kansas

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#7 posted 08-11-2016 04:37 PM

Having to make it that thin out of wood (1/8”!) would scare me a bit, I’d be afraid that even 1/8” plywood or MDF wouldn’t hold up.

Take a look at common plastics when making it. Things like HDPE end up working great for something like that! The best part with HDPE is that you can just buy a cheap cutting board and use that, ends up being much cheaper (HF has a 2 pack for like $10!).

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maxwellllll

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#8 posted 01-09-2017 04:45 PM

Just curious what you ended up doing for this. I’m in the same boat with the R4513, and wondering if you have found an elegant solution for a ZCI for it.

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pitttrack

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#9 posted 01-11-2017 03:29 AM

why not make one with a tracing router bit on the router table? I used that for another brand of saw and with some work they came out nice. I used corian scarps that I had laying around.

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runswithscissors

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#10 posted 01-11-2017 05:15 AM

I find it annoying that several manufacturers of low and even medium ranked saws can’t make a decent throat insert. They seem to have a pact, that if one has a crap design they all must have a crap design. There simply is no excuse for that “feature,” except that somebody is too lazy or ignorant to do it right.

Woodcraft has the right idea, to make a thick insert with divots for the support tabs. If you should try to make your own, phenolic is an excellent material. The trouble with HDPE is that it is a little too flexible. Good quality plywood (i.e. with lots of laminations) would also work well.

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Woodster73

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#11 posted 01-11-2017 02:04 PM

Hey maxwell, I didnt make one yet, I spent most of the holiday season working on christmas gifts that involved a bunch of handwork so really didn’t use the tablesaw much. I think I might start by trying runswithscissors’ idea of a thicker material with recessed cutouts for the tabs, etc. I need to sit down with the current insert and a piece of drafting paper and brainstorm…

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maxwellllll

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#12 posted 01-11-2017 06:47 PM

Gotcha. Well, please let me know what ends up working for you. I may end up futzing around a bit over the weekend to see what I can come up with using some scrap plywood or MDF. Since I’m still quite early on in my tool acquisition process, I don’t yet have a router, so I may end up trying to just rough something out with a bandsaw (or maybe even the TS itself) and then going from there.

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#13 posted 01-15-2017 04:40 PM

I have a r4513 and i use blue tape on top, or a piece of thin rollup cutting board on the bottom stuck on with double sided tape.

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#14 posted 01-15-2017 04:48 PM

You can fill your current insert with epoxy .. Wax paper and a flat caul to trap it …

-- Pat / Colorado

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#15 posted 01-19-2017 12:22 AM

I’m so glad I’m not the only one having this issue! I’m going to try making a thicker insert and cutting out divots where the the screw holes are.

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