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Forum topic by CharlesS posted 08-09-2016 04:00 PM 508 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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CharlesS

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08-09-2016 04:00 PM

Topic tags/keywords: chop saw miter saw table saw diy tools question tablesaw chopsaw

Hi everyone,
I recently bought a compound miter saw to use while laying flooring in my house as my chop saw could cut the width I needed. Now the chop is just standing around. My question:

Old chop saw:

Has anyone tried to turn a chop saw into a table saw?

I find a lot of articles explaining how to convert a circular saw but haven’t crossed one for a chop saw yet.
Thanks in advance for your comments, suggestion (even the rude ones ;^) ) and ideas.

Greets from Germany,
Charles

-- Greetz from Germany, Charles - Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool!! {borrowed from BRKH;)}


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ErichK

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#1 posted 08-09-2016 04:33 PM

I suspect that it is POSSIBLE, but I’m not sure it is something that would be worth doing. Additionally, a chop saw is probably the 2nd most useful tool in a wood shop (next to the table saw!), so you’re likely better off keeping it.

A few things to note with all the homemade table saws:
1- None of the guys making them like them/keep them long. Even John Heinz retired his for a contractors saw.
2- You’ll never make a table saw as nice as even a ‘decent’ contractors saw.
3- They are super easy to make… IF you already have a table saw to cut most of the parts! Otherwise they are really difficult to make accurately.

If I were you I’d see if I could find a decent used contractors saw and build an improved fence if I was so inclined.

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jwmalone

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#2 posted 08-09-2016 04:43 PM

Yea I’m with ErichK, a chop saw is really nice to have, even if it collects dust for a while when you do need it you’ll be damn glad you have it. And if you want to make a table saw, used circular saws are cheap and easy to come by ( in the U.S. anyway) I wouldn’t take a chance on ruining that chopper. Now a friend of mine who is a welder and millwright made a nice accurate table saw, but he has access to some really nice precision machine parts, the blade is made from an electric chain saw lol works great. Do you guys have rednecks like that in Germany.

-- "Boy you could get more work done it you quit flapping your pie hole" Grandpa

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#3 posted 08-09-2016 05:14 PM

Anything is possible. A miter saw is so different from a table saw, mechanically that it would take a complete tear down of the saw and a redesign for it’s new purpose. At best, it would never fulfill the duties of a table saw. I would suggest forgetting that idea.

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Rick M

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#4 posted 08-09-2016 05:18 PM



1- None of the guys making them like them/keep them long.

- ErichK

Not true.
Wandel still uses his in his country shop. Cosmas B still uses his.
Pekka's saw
Luc's saw
Woodgears.com has a list of people with homemade saws


Even John Heinz retired his for a contractors saw.
- ErichK

You’re talking about the one he burned? He’s also working on a new homemade saw.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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ErichK

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#5 posted 08-09-2016 06:27 PM


1- None of the guys making them like them/keep them long.

- ErichK

Not true.
Wandel still uses his in his country shop. Cosmas B still uses his.
Pekka s saw
Luc s saw
Woodgears.com has a list of people with homemade saws

Even John Heinz retired his for a contractors saw.
- ErichK

You re talking about the one he burned? He s also working on a new homemade saw.

- Rick M.

Didn’t realize Matthias still used his, I haven’t seen it on his videos in a very long time. John’s building one, but the jury is out as to whether he’ll actually USE this one long term.

It definitely seems like the guys who have the ability to get a commerical saw replace them as soon as possible shrug.

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devann

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#6 posted 08-09-2016 09:06 PM

CharlesS, I would consider keeping the chop saw and making or buying a table saw. I have an old chop saw that also just sits around a lot. The reason is I also have a nicer chop saw that’s permanently mounted to one of those collapsible stands with wheels that is my primary chop saw. The old one comes in handy when I want to travel light and don’t need the capacity of my primary saw. It’s also good to have around when a friend wants to borrow a saw. I agree with Mr Ron’s assessment.

ErichK’s remarks about all homemade table saws in his first comment are a bit off the mark.

1. One of the first homemade tables saws I built is still being used. It’s somewhere between 15-20 years old. I gave it to someone after his Makita contractor table saw quit working after 4-5 years of job site use. Same guy had a Delta contractor saw before the Makita. Same thing with it. A few years of the job site and it was done.

2. Myself I’ve owned many table saws ranging from cheap benchtops to expensive benchtops, & contractor table saws. All of the benchtop table saws had a flaw that I’ve never had with my homemade table saws. They lacked the power to cut thicker boards without tripping that annoying little circuit breaker that comes built in the saw. They also lacked the ripping capacity the homemade saws.

3. Using your chop saw you can make a table saw if you wish. ErichK is correct, it is easier to make a table saw if you already have a nice one. I have a 52 year old table saw that will probably still be going after I’m dead and gone. And I recently built myself a new one relatively cheap.

You can read more about it here: http://lumberjocks.com/projects/238378

My contractor tables saws were a royal PIA to haul around to the job site. Sometimes required a more powerful electric circuit that was available, and were not any more accurate than the saws I built. Please pardon my lack of humility but, the accuracy factor has a direct correlation to the builder’s fabrication skills. It’s just that some people have more experience, better fabrication skills, and more resources than others. That’s one of the reasons we keep practicing our craft.

To see an example of a LJ with exceptional fabrication skills that built what I consider the best homemade table saw on this site check out vonhagen, project, http://lumberjocks.com/projects/66587

Good luck Charles.

-- Darrell, making more sawdust than I know what to do with

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rick1955

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#7 posted 08-09-2016 10:34 PM

http://virutex.com/sawmiter-tablecombination.aspx
Look at the Virutex miter table saw.

-- Working smarter with less tools is a true crafts person...

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MrUnix

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#8 posted 08-09-2016 10:41 PM

While it’s pretty simple to make a TS from a circular saw by just screwing the base plate to the bottom of some plywood – I’m willing to bet that you will have one heck of a time trying to figure out how to mount a chop saw motor. Looking at mine, I can’t think of any way to easily do it. Or at least do it so it’s half way safe :)

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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kiefer

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#9 posted 08-10-2016 01:52 AM

Hi Charles
Here is a video of an ELU mitre/chop saw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4tV7_i-PYc
This may give you some idea what would be involved you would be better of to sell your saw and look for one of these .

Klaus

-- Kiefer https://www.youtube.com/user/woodkiefer1/videos

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Rick M

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#10 posted 08-10-2016 04:04 AM

My guess is that buying a table saw in Germany is not as cheap as buying one in the US and that is behind his question. Probably not like here where you jump on Craigslist and have a dozen or more to choose from for a couple hundred bucks.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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Loren

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#11 posted 08-10-2016 05:07 AM

You might look at the offerings of used Metabo/Beckum
table saws in Germany on ebay. There are some
pretty cool designs.

The conversion you want to do is not worth the trouble.

I have two European converter saws. One is an old
Elu that flips over from table saw to miter saw. The
other is a Metabo Secanta which is super cool.

I just looked and here’s a cool toy truck promoting the
saw.

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Loren

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#12 posted 08-10-2016 05:11 AM

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