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05-26-2010 08:44 PM

Today a1Jim posted his 29,998 post which got me thinking. I think it would be great if we could see with someones name a rankings to show the user’s level of activity and helpfulness in a forum reply. If you ask a question, and someone’s answer helps you, you can mark that forum reply as Answer. What do you guys think?

While it won’t really help discern if someone actually knows what they are talking about, I think it will help beginners learn who they can follow or trust, or at least guide them. Or maybe it will just motivate people to participate more since I think we all have a competitive side. This would be similar to either the ebay rating, or microsoft .net forums for developers which has 5 different status levels where you can get points for different stuff. Here is an example of what I mean:

These are based on Microsoft MSDN Forums point system but not as in depth. This is just an example and can be completely changed.

Action Points
You reply to a question or forum thread started by another user 2
Your reply is marked as the answer 10
Your reply is voted as being helpful 5 x (# of votes)
Post a project 5 points
Post a helpful tutorial/blog 20

And here are how many points are required to get to the next star level:

Stars Points
0 0
1 1 – 750
2 751 – 2000
3 2001 – 7500
4 7501 – 15000
5 15001+

-- - Eric Noblesville, IN


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#1 posted 05-26-2010 08:53 PM

nice idea, but how will you retrofit all current users/posts with points?

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#2 posted 05-26-2010 08:58 PM

Interesting Idea Eric It might be kind of hard to do like Sharron said.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#3 posted 05-26-2010 09:09 PM

It all depends on how the data is being stored. If stored correctly, a developer could write code to go through each user’s data and find out where they have posted, etc. I just don’t know what kind of data is actually being tracked. From a developer’s perspective, I do know it would definitely be possible.

For each user, you could find out how many blogs they’ve created, how many forum replies they’ve made, how many projects they’ve posted etc. You may not be able to get all the historical data but I think most of it is already being tracked so for the most part it could be retrofitted.

If they don’t want to write code for it then it would just be a new feature going forward to improve the site. I know that sucks for all the people like yourself Jim that have tons of blogs and posts already.

-- - Eric Noblesville, IN

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#4 posted 05-26-2010 09:21 PM

Kind of a neat idea. I’m sure Martin loves getting suggestion for yet more work. :-)

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#5 posted 05-26-2010 09:26 PM

There is always work to be done with a website if you want to increase traffic or increase user retention. But its a fragile line. Too much new stuff might alienate old members.

-- - Eric Noblesville, IN

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#6 posted 05-26-2010 09:31 PM

Thanks for tip, Eric. I’m already thinking about this. Similar index / score works well for the projects so far.

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#7 posted 05-26-2010 10:08 PM

After thinking about this it seems very hard to come up with a scale trying to determan how much experiance someone has by the number of post a person has . As an example there are people like Charles Neil,Chuck bender,Darrell peart,Marco aurclio Gimaracs and many many more that make my woodworking look like a first graders bird house but they may only have 50- 200 comments . I know if Martin is going to try this idea he will come up with a scale that will work.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#8 posted 05-26-2010 10:15 PM

I have ran a forum in the past… nowhere near the size of LJ, but on average I had 30-40 posts per day, about 400 active members, and about 1300 registered members. When I implemented a star ranking system, I started getting folks who would post garbage to get their post count up to achieve the stars or ranks or whatever. I think if there are arbitrary numbers for people to gauge their perceived ability or helpfulness we will find a lot of posts that aren’t helpful at all, but just to boost their post count to get the coveted master craftsman title you get for having 100,000 posts.

-- San Diego, CA

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#9 posted 05-26-2010 10:57 PM

Martin, it’s great having a web master that is active in their own forums :) We appreciate it very much.

Jim, that is a very good point. I don’t think posts alone would work, nor could just project posts alone since some people have like 1000 pens posted(not that there is anything wrong with pen posts, I just wish they would be grouped, or only post 1 if you have 10 pens that look alike). It would definitely take some thinking from us and Martin to get a good scale that everyone could be happy with. Like I said, it is just a thought I had and that point system was just an example.

Iterpim, you also have a very good point and I don’t think LJ’s could just get points for basic posts or, they’d have to actually be helpful in some way. Maybe people wouldn’t get points at all until at least N-people or so have voted as something being helpful or worthwhile to look at. I do like the Master Craftsmen though as being the top star value. It’s totally up to Martin whether he wants to implement this or not, but I like the idea as long as the point system is well thought out.

-- - Eric Noblesville, IN

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#10 posted 05-26-2010 11:10 PM

Eric/martin
What about something simple like have some letters to designate if you are woodworking for a living like (P) for pro and (T) as woodworking teacher plus the amount of years along side the the letter showing how long you have been either Plus things like if you have DVDs or videos on you tube . These things could be listed along side or below your amount of post. All of these things would help a new person to determine what they think of your input.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#11 posted 05-26-2010 11:15 PM

That sounds like a good idea Jim. Congrats by the way, I just noticed you finally passed 30,000 posts.

-- - Eric Noblesville, IN

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#12 posted 05-26-2010 11:46 PM

Thanks Eric

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#13 posted 06-16-2010 12:59 AM

I come here to read and learn I really do not want to be evaluated on how well or how poorly I do in woodworking, a scoring system would really take some of the appeal of this site for me. I suspect that after a while of reading posts you can discern the Garyks, Karsons and aiJims of this group; a scoring system is not going to change how valuable their (and the many like them) contributions and advice are. I vote strongly against a scoring system, let the reader evaluate whom they trust.

My two cents worth.

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2

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#14 posted 06-16-2010 01:04 AM

It was just an idea i had and Interpim’s post made a valid point against it that I agree with. So it sounds like it wouldn’t really be popular here anyways so don’t worry. However, I do like Jim’s suggestion.

-- - Eric Noblesville, IN

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#15 posted 06-16-2010 01:35 AM

I like Jim’s idea the best. I think you have a great point, Eric, just maybe an overused and abused system with which to show it. I think that the idea Jim has will do well, I’m sure Martin will be able to utilize these ideas.

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