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05-26-2010 05:58 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question hackberry butternut

ok so i got a bunch of butternut from a guy and he had mentioned that it was extinct or really close, so im curious if he was filling me full of it or if this is the case…he gave me all of what he had which was under 20 bdft and a left buying over 800 bdft of wood (ash/red and white oak/cedar/hackberry) but he was out of black walnut..grrrr..lol but anyways i was curious to hear about working with butternut and hackberry, have any of yall had any dealings with them?

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#1 posted 05-26-2010 06:06 PM

I’ve heard that American Butternut is about extinct but it’s still plentiful in Europe. I don’t know if thats true…........Schloemoe

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#2 posted 05-26-2010 06:23 PM

hackberry and butternut are both native here in indiana, i’ve seen them around in the woods. i’ve also heard that they’re getting rarer, but i know for sure they’re not extinct. i cut up a small hackberry tree for firewood a couple months ago (saved some pieces for turning). it’s hard to find clear butternut lumber, it’s prone to bug problems which i think is due to it’s low density. we are having trouble with our local ash trees because of the emerald ash borer.

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#3 posted 05-26-2010 06:26 PM

I’ve never used either how are they to work.

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#4 posted 05-26-2010 06:33 PM

i’ve only turned hackberry(it turns well), but i’ve never used it in board form. butternut is related to walnut, and looks similar but is lighter in color. it’s really light and tears out easily. it works like a soft pine, but is difficult to finish.

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#5 posted 05-26-2010 06:35 PM

Thanks bent

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#6 posted 05-26-2010 06:36 PM

i forgot to add cocoa bean in here too, we also got some of that and i havent worked with any of these woods yet, my grabbing of them was to try working them but was looking to see if anyone had so i could get a bit of research in in case i needed to know anything…ive been looking at hobbithouse at the hackberry and butternut but they dont list a cocoa bean, maybe thats a common name listed under something else?...so if anyone has a clue on that please throw some info my way ;)
1 thing that bluntly hit me when i got it home was that ash and butternut i think are going to be too close to figure out which is which..unless im already headed in the wrong doirection it seems that ash is heavier then the butternut…but being fairly …ok completely new to the wood identification i may be screwed..lol
i can tell what is cherry, maple, red oak and walnut with absolute precision, but get out of that realm and im stil pretty screwed..lol

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#7 posted 05-26-2010 06:40 PM

I’vwe turned hackberry and it turns well. However, it is a very dull wood. It is a wood that is prone to spalting if left outside on the ground. Spaulted hackberry can be very intersting and attractive.

I cut down a hackberry tree about 18 months ago. A lot of it is (hopefully) spalting nicely. I’m about ready to check. I also plan to make some boards by running some 12” diameter logs through my bandsaw on a sled.

I certainly don’t want to argue but I understand that butternut is sometimes called “white walnut” but, from a biological perspective, they are not closely related at all. That’s just what I read a while ago.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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#8 posted 05-26-2010 06:46 PM

well i will say “argueably” butternut other then color does look incredibly like walnut but a lighter version..lol
but im not science guy so it could be radioactive and an alien life form for all i know…lol
o and i may just be chucking the hackberry around my yard..lol

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#9 posted 05-26-2010 07:04 PM

Butternut makes really nice carvings

-- Larry "Work like a Captain but Play like a Pirate!"

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#10 posted 05-26-2010 07:13 PM

I have heard BN called white walnut

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#11 posted 05-26-2010 07:30 PM

I bought some butternut in northern PA about two years back. It’s light and works great. It’s softer than many hardwoods, and isn’t as strong as oak or elm, but it’s got a nice rustic look to it.

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#12 posted 06-03-2010 04:18 AM

See this: http://lumberjocks.com/topics/16192

PM me if you want to hear more. I have a butternut jones. s

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