LumberJocks

I can't wait to get back to my shop

  • Advertise with us

« back to Coffee Lounge forum

Forum topic by Roger Clark aka Rex posted 1530 days ago 1106 views 0 times favorited 48 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View Roger Clark aka Rex's profile

Roger Clark aka Rex

6940 posts in 2040 days


1530 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: question

Been immobile now for 3 months with my right leg in the air. Not much you can do in this situation; maybe read about what you could be making in the shop, reliving all Law and Order and Star Trek episodes, and if I want something beamed from a different planet, then there are so many alien media channels that can enhance nausier to an unpresidented level with the geatest offering of misinformation and brainwashing since the Third Reich.
One thing is certain, the media does not report the news as it really is, but instead makes up fantasies, provokes, demonizes and invents scenarios to sway opinions, make policies and generally assure constant conflict to make their “story” into a series of invented strife.
Free Speach is a right we are lucky have, but Free Lies, free insinuations, Free Mass Opinions are how the media translates this Freedom mean. Free Speech I believe is an entilement for a citizen to express, his or her’s opinion freely without prejudice but does this freedom extend to a news reader? Is he or she expressing their own opinion, someones elses or a statement from a “Media think tank for inventing or embellishing the bland truth” into something more marketable and ultimately, money making. Current case in point:
We have an oil dissaster in the Gulf and the media has really jumped on the bandwagon stirring up “public” oppinion, blames and solutions which are obviously bent on continuing conflict.
Yes, the oil leakage is real and there has to be a rational reason for the accident – or would you think anyone would do it on pupose? Just read the facts: Does BP own the Well? No the rig is leased, BP only owns the oil produced by the rig. Has BP taken the responsibilty for the oil spill? Yes from day 1 Did BP’s equipment cause the problem? No, it was leased rig and Equipment. Why did the auto shutoff safety not work? Ask Halliburton, they made it. Has BP been dragging it’s feet? NO, looks like they pulled out all the possible stops (impossible not counted) The Admiral on site with USCG states they are doing everything possible. Government issue immediate order to change dispersents? To one that does not have enough supply to do the job and is less affective – really smart move by Gov! Who esle can help?Does it not surprise you that no other oil comapny has come forward to assist? Why not? Why is this dissaster a political nightmare? Just another added feature for loss/gain
.Who wants the Feds to push BP aside and take over BP? All those who vote communist I guess. Gov adds NASA scientist to overseeing group? Wow, do they think this spill will reach Space? What vital equipment does BP need? A Magic Wand??
One thing is certain. This is a dissaster caused by an accident or safeguard failure. People where landfall of the oil are concerned, and rightly so. Every effort should be made to stop or reduce the impact and BP should pay the bill for it, but whining about what is fact and what is “what if” and doing nothing does not help. Stop the grandstanding and do something practical.
I’m as anxious as anyone to see this dissaster over and I think it could be handled better if the media was more responsible in their newscasts.
I don’t buy BP gas, don’t own any shares in BP, never worked for them but I think crucifiction is not needed.
The above example just demonstrates how the media translates a high profile disaster into a soap opera. That is unless you really think that this disaster was an act of terrorism, and that BP, the Government and Gulf Coast residents are not doing all they can to get this resolved as soon as possible? If it were my money at stake for financial responsibility, I would certainly be in haste.

This post only talks about the current oil spill, but the real gist of this post is to expose
“Terrorism by Media” or should our declaration be changed to “We the Media”…….

No political views or intentions in this post.

Can’t wait to get back into the shop and make sawdust to put on the oil spill !!

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.


48 replies so far

View CharlieM1958's profile

CharlieM1958

15672 posts in 2824 days


#1 posted 1530 days ago

Roger, the bottom line is that sensationalism sells. The media will always add fuel to the fire in the interest of ratings. Whenever things like this happen, conspiracy theories start coming out of the woodwork. The truth is usually much more mundane.

In the case of the gulf spill, I think time will reveal that it was nothing more than a case of accident-meets-incompetence-meets-insufficient adherence to established safety and testing procedures.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

View Roger Clark aka Rex's profile

Roger Clark aka Rex

6940 posts in 2040 days


#2 posted 1530 days ago

Charlie,
I believe your analysis is spot-on. It concerns me that these “stories” give the average reader or viewer a confused set of fact, fiction and conspiracy that ventures far from reality. I believe the media should be held more responsible to report verifiable factual news, not stir up controversy by adding incorrect content.
BTW Are you beloved crawdads threatened by the oil?

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

View CharlieM1958's profile

CharlieM1958

15672 posts in 2824 days


#3 posted 1530 days ago

Since crawfish grow in fresh water, they are probably the least threatened of all our seafood. As a matter of fact, I sucked some heads and pinched some tails just yesterday. :-)

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

View Roger Clark aka Rex's profile

Roger Clark aka Rex

6940 posts in 2040 days


#4 posted 1530 days ago

Excuse me while I barf Charlie.
I see you’re bragging again – shame on you. :-)

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

View Dennisgrosen's profile

Dennisgrosen

10850 posts in 1721 days


#5 posted 1530 days ago

who the hell drag you out of the black hat Roger :—))

good to see you back but you shuold have someone to come with a knife
and a carving set and some wood , then start carving woodghost´s
that wood realy killing your time instead of try to think, havn´t you hear
it can be painfull to do that…......LOL

stay tuned Roger

Dennis

View GregD's profile

GregD

608 posts in 1742 days


#6 posted 1530 days ago

I agree there is an overabundance of worthless rants coming out of the media and also from the politicians. Thoughtful discussion is pretty scarce, but it does pop up from time to time. Even here on LJ.

I am very skeptical that there is any reasonable excuse for BP losing control of the well, killing 11 people, burning down a rig, and spilling an awful lot of nasty crude in the gulf. The time for them to take responsibility for what they were doing was before things got out of hand. I suppose its possible that something truly unexpected happened, but its far more likely that the decision makers (BP) were not applying best practices leading up to the loss of well control and the resulting explosion, fire, deaths and spill. If BP can’t do better than this then I wouldn’t let them operate. If the industry can’t do better than this, then I’ll support a ban on offshore drilling – and I work in the industry.

-- Greg D.

View hairy's profile

hairy

1988 posts in 2138 days


#7 posted 1530 days ago

Sorry to hear that you’re laid up, Roger. I did 8 weeks like that,then 9 more of physical therapy. Get well soon!

-- the last of Barret's Privateers...

View Roger Clark aka Rex's profile

Roger Clark aka Rex

6940 posts in 2040 days


#8 posted 1530 days ago

Greg, I think it is pretty obvious that something utterly unexpected happened, but so far no reasons have been given by anybody, maybe its because they don’t know yet. IF best practices and required laws and rules were not adhered to then bashing BP would be in order, but if there is no evidence available yet it is pretty safe bet to assume that this kind of industry is inspected by various independent authorities on a regular basis, if so where are the reports?
Was it BP’s taking ownership of oil from someone else’s Rig (TransOcean ??) with someone else’s (Halliburton) fail safe equipment, with inspections by industry bodies, isn’t this a confusing way to suggest ownership and responsibility?
Don’t get me wrong Greg, you could be perfectly correct about it all, but all I see so far is a blame and smear scenario without any facts or REAL information.
I expect that if you are working in the industry then you must be aware of speculation that other people are not privy to, and which the media has ignored.

This BP issue is not posted to be a debate about who is right or wrong, it just is an illustration of how the media behaves and stirs up mischief as a way of “keeping the pot boiling”

I really do hope the oil deal gets concluded for all concerned and puts the responsibility where and on whom it belongs and restitution fairly received.

I still don’t understand why none of the seven sisters and other oil companies have not offered help, smell anything sinister there?

Hairy, Yes I’m going to be required to physical therapy for 1 or 2 months. bummer!

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

View jack1's profile

jack1

1910 posts in 2633 days


#9 posted 1530 days ago

I think this admin is getting a bye on this one again… Remember the GOP induced hurricane? ;0)

-- jack -- ...measure once, curse twice!

View Bob #2's profile

Bob #2

3808 posts in 2627 days


#10 posted 1530 days ago

Makes it hard to believe that the Obama Administration came forward saying that our oil sands extraction system was not up to the fine standard that he had set for the U.S.
We have not had a “spill” with the system as yet and like most responsible countries we are working with science to sequester the remanants of the extraction process. <g>

But…. you can always go into the ocean and drill for yet another bonanza!

BTW, Mr. Obama the egg is supposed to go in the mouth not on the face.

-- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner

View Roger Clark aka Rex's profile

Roger Clark aka Rex

6940 posts in 2040 days


#11 posted 1530 days ago

Deke,
Many thanks for your input, I will indeed look forward to being released from my “bonds”.

I guess it serves me right as I always thought people with broken bone and ankles were a bunch of whiners with exaggerated inconveniences. ..................Boy have I learned to eat crow !!!!!
This easily the worst incapacity I have had to endure, total boredom and not able to do the most mundane things. I’ll be much kinder and sympathetic to the next person I see in a cast.

Love the story about your travels.

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

View GregD's profile

GregD

608 posts in 1742 days


#12 posted 1530 days ago

Roger – What I’ve seen in the media about the BP spill is pretty worthless – which is your point. My opinions about industrial accidents are based on other information – including decades of safety awareness training in the oil industry. But enough of that.

LJs – Maybe we should start sending Roger all those small parts that need a lot of hand sanding ;-)

-- Greg D.

View Roger Clark aka Rex's profile

Roger Clark aka Rex

6940 posts in 2040 days


#13 posted 1530 days ago

Deke,
Yeah I’m sure I have it worse than you. The only woman I get to meet is the wife, and when this ankle deal started, I must say I had a pretty good and was spoiled. Time has taken its toll however, I now have had to spend 100% of my miserable existence with some unsympathetic woman vacuuming around me and barking all the time.
So now I’m doing some research on poisons while checking out a multi-tool purchase I could make with an insurance check.
Thanks for the ideas.

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

View Roger Clark aka Rex's profile

Roger Clark aka Rex

6940 posts in 2040 days


#14 posted 1530 days ago

GregD,
Man, that was a cruel suggestion. Better, all LJs should send their sawdust to BP for the oil spill. lol

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

View Dark_Lightning's profile

Dark_Lightning

1676 posts in 1715 days


#15 posted 1530 days ago

I’ve got a cubic yard of cedar shavings to send them down there in the gulf- it’ll suck up the oil and smell good at the same time. Hope you get better soon, Roger.

showing 1 through 15 of 48 replies

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

GardenTenders.com :: gardening showcase