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Forum topic by BenjaminPQ posted 08-05-2016 02:47 AM 451 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BenjaminPQ

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08-05-2016 02:47 AM

Hello All,

I’ve cleared some forest and I’m selling the lumber. Approximately, 80% is cherry, 10% maple, 10% other hardwoods. The biggest ones are probably 24 inch in diameter. It’s all been cut and stacked in the last 6 weeks. Here is my ad on Craigslist: https://akroncanton.craigslist.org/grd/5713143172.html

What is this timber worth?

I found this price guide for Ohio:

http://ohiowood.osu.edu/images/Final_TPRspr2014_to_fall2014_(1).pdf

It basically looks like 1 dollar per board foot for large cherry and hard maple logs. So, a 20 in. by 12 foot cherry log would be worth about 200 bucks. Does that sound right?

Thanks!


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nightguy

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#1 posted 08-05-2016 06:09 AM

Now these prices are for Kilned dried lumber in WI
http://www.kmhardwoods.com/lumberprices.cfm

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#2 posted 08-05-2016 11:45 AM

Ben, a “board foot” is 1 inch by 12 inches by 12 inches. It is a unit of volume. Basically 144 cubic inches of wood.

Turning your 20 inch by 12 foot log into a volume in cubic inches would be like this:
Pi times the radius-in-inches-squared times the length in feet times 12 inches per foot
3.14 times 10 (the radius of a 20 inch diameter log) times 10(squaring the radius) times 12 feet times 12 inches per foot = 45,216 cubic inches

which equals 45,216/144 = 314 board feet

keep in mind that the price table you found was for already milled lumber, not a raw log. You would loose some significant percentage (I have no clue what that percentage is) of the raw volume in the process of milling it down into usable lumber.

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#3 posted 08-05-2016 12:18 PM

I think his price list is in fact the prices that sawmills were paying for timber (note references to stumpage and saw logs). Someone on LJ on actually buys sawlogs can explain all this much better, but there are standard ways of measuring yield from sawlogs. Here’s a calculator: http://www.woodweb.com/cgi-bin/calculators/calc.pl
Looks like there are three different scales, but all of them provide yields in the range of 192-210 board feet from your 20 inch by 12 foot log.
I expect that the prices on the list are for logs delivered to a commercial mill – on CL, with people coming to pick up themselves, probably much lower prices.

-- Jeremy, in the Acadian forests

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#4 posted 08-05-2016 12:31 PM

It looks like you guys use the Doyle log scale method down there- same as we do in my region of MI.

Looks like you have some nice logs in that stack.

Your best bet on figuring out their worth is to call your local mills to see what they’re currently paying for sawlogs. You’ll find on what they’re paying by species and by the logs grade. Also, there is a different price paid for logs being picked up at the landing and dropped off at the mill.

I have bought cherry in the last couple of months and paid $.65 per bf on the landing.

Maples value drops quickly if cut during the hot season due to blue stain. Not saying you have it but it’s why maple usually is cut in the fall, winter, and spring.

Last thing. If I were buying logs at market price I would go to a logger or mill that would provide me with stacks of logs presorted by grade and length. I have bought sawlogs off CL in the past but that was only if I was able to get a deal…who goes on craigslist to buy retail? ;)

-- Power to the people.

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#5 posted 08-05-2016 03:00 PM

Thanks for the replies!

I just talked to a small, local mill that wasn’t at all interested in cherry. He said prices were way down on cherry and he had a lot just sitting in his ware house. He said he doubts an big mills would be interested in the small amount I have. I think at this point I need to either just sell it as firewood and maybe keep the big logs to mill myself. Pretty depressing.

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#6 posted 08-06-2016 02:21 PM

Wow. I think I’d give it away before selling as firewood.
Never know what the wood will be till you open it up.

Me, I would have it all custom milled to 5/4 and keep boards in sequential order.
Of course I have a place to air dry it this may be a probem for you.

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