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Forum topic by avsmusic1 posted 07-31-2016 06:32 PM 1033 views 0 times favorited 24 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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avsmusic1

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07-31-2016 06:32 PM

As the title would suggest I’m feeling a little guilty for posting another one of these threads. However, I’ve done a fair amount of searching around on this forum and elsewhere and I’m hoping to keep this from getting too terribly redundant. What I haven’t found is recommendations for my particular situation…

- Hobbyist – Mostly small furniture type projects (e.g. currently making a toybox for my son)
- Detached garage workshop – one bay of which is all mine and doesn’t need to accommodate my jalopy of a car
- Using a 110 with the heaviest gauge extension cord I could find (10g?) b/c I don’t have electricity to the garage and, while it’s in the cards in the intermediate term, it’s not going to happen in the next yr
- I’m thinking ~$500 so call it 400-600 for the budget

I have access to a dewalt contractors saw with a mobile base which has sufficed but I think it’s time for a saw of my own. I’ve read a lot about the pros/cons of saws like the Ridgid 4512, Delta 36-725 and I can hunt for a slightly upper scale (?) hybrid like a Jet on CL. They all seem like solid options given the budget constraints. I seem to be in the used bullet motor unisaw budget range as well though. It’s easy to get swept up with the romantic notion of owning a tank of a cabinet saw with strong “upgrade potential.” I’m a little uneasy though given the age/upkeep gamble (I know I don’t want a “fixer upper” saw) and current electrical situation.

So what do you guys/gals think? What would you do?
Thanks in advance!


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bondogaposis

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#1 posted 07-31-2016 07:01 PM

Get an old Craftsman 113. , they everywhere on CL for $150 or less. Then plan on upgrading the rip fence. That is about the biggest bang for the buck on table saws.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#2 posted 07-31-2016 07:11 PM

I have the ridgid and do it again I would go with the delta, because of the fence and tracks, the tracks are 2 peices and tend to bow upwards over time cause fence miss aliment, compared to the delta which has one peice rails and a better fence, I’m used to it and easy to adjust, but very frustrating

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#3 posted 07-31-2016 07:32 PM

I have a Craftsman 113 I bought many years ago. I upgraded the fence to a Delta, got a nice Feud Premier Fusion blade and a zero clearance insert. It is very usable. It would be nice to have more power and better dust collection but can’t afford it. If I was to upgrade would look at the Grizzly Hybrid.

-- Joel, Encinitas, CA

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#4 posted 08-01-2016 02:43 AM

The Ridgid is a crap shoot whether you get one with the deflecting allignmnt defect. Mine has it and it is not correctable without spending as much as the original saw cost. Also, Ridgid has never, and most likely will never, admit there is a defect so they won’t fix it without you sending it to a repair station. Shipping an assembled saw without further damage and cost is another story. I can’t UN-RECOMMEND Ridgid R4512 strongly enough.

-- Michael: Hillary has a long list of accomplishments, though most DAs would refer to them as felonies.

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avsmusic1

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#5 posted 08-01-2016 11:31 AM

Thanks for the thoughts so far guys. I hadn’t considered an older craftsman but I’ll certainly look closer at that option.

I’m a little surprised there hasn’t been any votes for the unisaw yet, but I had heard about the issues w/ the rigid. It was my understanding that that issue doesn’t develop though, right? In other words, I could check a new saw and if it wasn’t there id be good to go.

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#6 posted 08-01-2016 11:58 AM

Hate to contradict, but I started out with a 70’s era C’man TS and didn’t know how inferior, no HORRIBLE the fence was until I almost cut a finger off. And how terribly underpowered they are.

So – you guessed it – I do NOT recommend those dime a dozen $100 C’man saws all over CL. They’re better than nothing, but just a little ;-) They certainly aren’t worth spending more $$ than you paid for the saw upgrading the fence and getting a bigger motor.

Of course there are some home made fences that might work fairly well…..and you may have a motor laying around you could use…..

.....or there are some new saws that will work much better (no recommendations other than you can’t beat the old Unisaws—if you can find one at a reasonable price. Most of the ones around me are in the $1K range.

Even if you’re just making little things now, you never know where ww’ing is going to take you. With this thought in mind, I would take a close look at 2HP Grizzly hybrid if it fits your budget.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#7 posted 08-01-2016 12:03 PM

Another vote for a Craftsman 113 model. I had one with an all cast iron top that worked for me for 25 years. Some upgrades such as a decent blade, miter gauge and maybe a fence, but the stock fence will work with some adjustment for a start. This a lot of saw for the small amount that you will pay. Later, when you are better established; you can look for a replacement since you will have some experience and know what features you want/need. Good luck, have fun and work safely.

-- "Now I'm just another old guy wearing funny clothes"

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#8 posted 08-01-2016 01:11 PM

http://hartford.craigslist.org/tls/5707616739.html
I’m going to go check this out today

The craftsman options in my area right now are looking BEAT but there are a couple 110 unisaw options <600

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avsmusic1

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#9 posted 08-01-2016 01:13 PM

Also saw this in my area

http://hartford.craigslist.org/tls/5703215440.html

Thoughts? Worth checking out?

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#10 posted 08-01-2016 02:41 PM

Unisaw looks awesome. But I’d be leary of any saw that’s been used to cut sheetrock per the walker turner ad.

-- Matt - Phoenix, AZ

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#11 posted 08-01-2016 03:29 PM

Both saws look good. The uni make sure they have the rails for the fence.

Matt you misread the listing on the walker turner it say sheet stock.

-- mrg

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#12 posted 08-01-2016 03:30 PM

I’d be all over that Walker turner saw.It looks great.I don’t see it mentioned in the ad that it was used to cut sheet rock.Or dry wall .
The unisaw looks good also but needs some work.Dont be put off about working on your machines at least it was made to be serviced.

Aj

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#13 posted 08-01-2016 03:33 PM

If they’ve got the rails the Delta could be a great saw.


Also saw this in my area

http://hartford.craigslist.org/tls/5703215440.html

Thoughts? Worth checking out?

- avsmusic1

It could be a great saw and if you had 220 available, I’d say jump on it, but since you don’t have power in the shop on a full time basis, I’d skip any saw that runs on 220. Running a 110 extension cord is doable, especially if you get a 10ga one, but 220 is another matter.

-- "Good judgement is the result of experience. A lot of experience is the result of poor judgement."

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onoitsmatt

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#14 posted 08-01-2016 03:45 PM

Oops. Sorry, sheet stock is good, sheet rock would be bad. But as others mentioned the 220v thing would be an issue.

-- Matt - Phoenix, AZ

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Aj2

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#15 posted 08-01-2016 06:30 PM

I thought 220 is no longer available. 240 is what’s at my service panel.It does vary from 237 to 239 thanks to Sce.
Is there really 110×2 = 220 at your guys shop?

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