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Jack Dalton

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05-18-2010 10:20 PM

I am doing two small tables made of poplar and my wife wants them black. What is the best practice for this kind of finish?

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interpim

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#1 posted 05-18-2010 10:28 PM

I’ve used india ink, followed up by a coat of ebony stain…

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The one shown is Maple, but I made a second table just like that one out of pine and they look identical, until you pick them up and feel the weight difference.

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CharlieM1958

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#2 posted 05-18-2010 10:28 PM

There are any number of dyes out there… I’ve even heard plain old fashioned RIT dye for clothing works well on wood. Of course, if she really wants pure black, Ive use brush-on enamel with good results.

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mrg

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#3 posted 05-18-2010 10:44 PM

Minwax has ebony stain and wenge stain. Your local paint store could tell you also or may even be able to mix you some black stain. I know my local supplier mixes custom stains for you.

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dustyal

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#4 posted 05-18-2010 10:49 PM

I have quart of black water based dye I can bring Thursday night if you want to try it… I used it on poplar… but I didn’t get solid black… grain did show. Recall my yellow shaker table? Well, I have yellow and red and blue if she would like a little color…!

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Karson

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#5 posted 05-19-2010 12:32 AM

There you go Jacl. Lots of suggestions.

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Sawdust4Blood

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#6 posted 05-19-2010 01:08 AM

transtint black dye, seal with a coat of shellac, a coat of black transtint color tinted lacquer, and a couple of coats of clear lacquer polished and buffed will yield a look similar to Asian black lacquered furniture.

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Chris Wright

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#7 posted 05-19-2010 01:16 AM

You should be able to get black lacquer, however, if you go for the glossy piano finish, be sure to spend plenty of time sanding and prepping the surface. If not, any imperfection shows through.

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a1Jim

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#8 posted 05-19-2010 02:37 AM

India ink works looks good

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CharlesNeil

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#9 posted 05-19-2010 05:42 AM

yep give the dye a slug of India Ink… and call it a day… its black and serious about it, wear gloves…

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Les Casteel

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#10 posted 05-22-2010 12:45 AM

When I do black, I don’t use stain!, I use a dye of some sort, alcohol based usually, but the india ink thing is worth a try. Whatever you use finish up with a quality wipe on poly and rub out the last coat.

Good Luck!

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CaptainSkully

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#11 posted 05-22-2010 03:49 PM

Steel wool dissolved in vinegar works pretty well.

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Gord Graff

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#12 posted 05-22-2010 04:57 PM

Hello Jack,

I’m also a huge fan of using India ink and if you’re looking for a DEEP BLACK.............you can’t go wrong.
I gave up using dyes a long time ago; they just didn’t go black, fast enough for me.

The base of the clock below is made from red oak and was dyed with India ink.
It took two coats of India ink and you couldn’t get it any blacker if you tried.

All the best
Gord

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wisardd1

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#13 posted 05-22-2010 07:17 PM

Here is a good article on Piano Black

http://www.lungster.com/l/speakers/pianofinish.shtml

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