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Craig

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05-18-2010 05:06 AM

What are the better glues. Elmers Probond is cheaper than Titebond. Elmers Ultimate is a cheaper polyurethane glue than Gorrila. Myself I the Elmers because it is cheaper and suits my needs. But that doesnt necessarily mean it is the best.
I remember the water and powder mix at 1:1 ratio. It looked like chocolate pudding when mixed. What was the name of that? Is it still available? And how good is it compared to todays ready to use bottle glues?

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Gene Howe

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#1 posted 05-18-2010 01:32 PM

I am a Titebond fan. The only gripe I have about it is it’s short open time.
Haven’t tried Elmers.
Tried the poly glue when Gorilla intro’ed it. I quit using it.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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rance

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#2 posted 05-18-2010 01:54 PM

Craig, There’s no ONE glue that will suit all your needs. Glues have different properties for different situations. A poly. glue can fill in a sloppy joint where a yellow glue won’t do such a good job. A poly. is also good for humid applications. If you’re gluing glass to wood, then an epoxy or silicone may be your best choice. If you are gluing mitered corners, then Titebond has a glue particurlarly formulated for that application. It has other properties such as a quicker drying time too. You need to define your application before the question can be properly answered.

If you are talking about a straight up wood to wood, parallel grain joint that isn’t going to be stressed, then most any yellow glue will suffice. Glues, nowadays, are for the most part overkill to the task. If all is done properly(tight joint, etc.), then the wood should break before the glue joint does.

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#3 posted 05-18-2010 01:56 PM

Make sure you realize that there is regular Gorilla glue and there is also Gorilla wood glue. For woodworking applications the Gorilla wood glue is very good (albeit expensive).

I’m a fan of Titebond II but I switch to Titebond III if I need a water resistant bond and/or I need a longer open time.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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MyFathersSon

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#4 posted 05-19-2010 08:51 PM

I used Elmers products for YEARS – because of brand identification that started early.
What kid didn’t use good ole Elmers Glue All for school projects.
Like Craig – their wood glue products always met my rather basic needs.

In recent years I have become a Titebond convert—seems to have a faster tack time.
Haven’t tried the Gorilla products yet—but plan to.

Rance makes a very important point. There ARE different products made to meet different specific needs—read the label closely.

As for the powder mix you mention—can’t say it rings a bell.
SOUNDS sort of like Durham Rock Putty—but that’s a wood filler – not an adhesive.

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#5 posted 05-19-2010 09:03 PM

Weldwood plastic resin glue is a powder that you mix with water. Long open time, rigid bond. Good for bent laminations and other things where a non flexible bond is desired.

-- Michael Murphy, Woodland, CA.

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#6 posted 05-19-2010 10:07 PM

I prefer Titebond for yellow glue simply because I always have had good luck with it. I have never deviated to any other kind. I also like Gorilla Glue for poly.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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Craig

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#7 posted 05-19-2010 10:51 PM

Well I have been sitting here idle and the verdict in. There seems to be more of a preference to Titebond. But you know “MyFathersSon” does have a good point and I have also been using it for years and that is Elmers. The Polys when it comes to Gorrila vs. Elmers Utimate is quite a bit of a price difference. I have used both and I dont see the difference. Perhaps I will do test piece using both. Gorrila may react more when adding more water to the joint? I will see. And maybe I will bye a bottle of the Titebonds (I , II and III). It may sway my preference. Thanks for your imput. This site helps to hear other peoples opinion. I’m still a rookie.

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#8 posted 05-19-2010 11:53 PM

I’ll cast a vote for Tightbond (II or III) for wood to wood applications. I’ve been very happy with joint strengths across many different varieties of wood. Between this, epoxy, and a variety of CA glues, I generally have what I need on hand.

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Mike Podurgiel

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#9 posted 05-20-2010 12:53 AM

I like Elmers Probond. It’s thicker and doesn’t run like Titebond. As for results, I see very little difference in any of them.

-- Mike, Texas

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Sean

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#10 posted 05-20-2010 12:55 AM

titebond. FWW did a test a year or so ago, gorilla glue was actually weaker than titebond, it was just waterproof.

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Roger Clark aka Rex

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#11 posted 05-20-2010 02:04 AM

I use TB III, but my next build will be with KA glue – it is really good and cheaper. Give it a try.
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8iowa

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#12 posted 05-20-2010 02:56 AM

I mostly use Titebond II. However I also keep handy J.B. Weld, 5 min epoxy, and slow setting epoxy for gluing dissimilar materials ( metal to wood for example). I also use Elmers white glue for repair work of small slivers and pieces broken off because white glue cures completely clear.

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#13 posted 05-20-2010 02:59 AM

It depends what I’m gluing

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#14 posted 05-20-2010 03:39 AM

Titebond III.

-- Rick

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8iowa

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#15 posted 05-21-2010 03:14 PM

The Feb/Mar issue of Woodsmith magazine (#181) has an informative article on “alternative” glues.

This issue also has plans for a neat trestle table with extensions.

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