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Forum topic by bbasiaga posted 07-27-2016 02:54 AM 772 views 0 times favorited 22 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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07-27-2016 02:54 AM

Just sitting here looking around, wondering if there are any disadvantages to the bronze bodied planes LN offers? The advantages I see quoted are the additional weight at the same size, reduced brittleness (may not crack if it falls on to a hard surface as would cast iron), and beauty.

Cost is one disadvantage. Are there others? I thought I saw one reference to them leaving black marks on the wood if they hadn’t been used in a while, but I couldn’t relocate that reference. What are the other downsides?

Briam

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#1 posted 07-27-2016 03:23 AM

Personally, I don’t see any dark sides or drawbacks to my bronze LN no. 4. Heavier is good. No worry about corrosion, like you have with regular planes. Nice thick plane iron, so chatter is only something on talk radio. Rub a little candle wax on the sole and it glides like a dream. I do tend to reach for my Veritas low angle no. 4 first, but it is closer to hand.

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#2 posted 07-27-2016 12:08 PM

Fine Woodworking recently had a conversation about this on their podcast (latest one I believe if you want to listen to it). Their takeaway was yes, it can leave some marks after not using it for a while, but they are minor and plane away easily. They had no reservations about bronze body planes. I don’t personally have any, so I can’t say.

-- John

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#3 posted 07-27-2016 05:54 PM

Actually I love bronze bodies!

Oops I didn’t realize you were talking about planes.

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#4 posted 07-27-2016 06:05 PM

Sometimes my bronze 4 sits for months without use. I have never had issues with black marks. My shop is in the house and I wonder if, like iron planes, the environment affects the speed at which bronze oxidizes.

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#5 posted 07-27-2016 06:07 PM

Didn’t the Iron Age end the Bronze Age? About 5000 years ago?

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#6 posted 07-27-2016 11:45 PM

The iron age ended in the 20th century with the alloy age, and you could argue that the alloy age is being ended by the composite materials age now. Carbon nanotube planes anyone?

Brian

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#7 posted 07-27-2016 11:53 PM

Same thing would happen to unprotected cast iron so it’s a wash if you ask me.

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#8 posted 07-28-2016 02:46 AM

+ one on the carbon nanotube hand plane. I would like a free prototype sent to me for testing proposes. I don’t have any bronze planes but that is my next thing to collect after the bedrock planes

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#9 posted 07-28-2016 02:50 AM

And so begins. The age of…

Pokemon go.

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#10 posted 07-28-2016 03:18 AM

Bronze now that’s what I call a grass roots movement, back to basics. I have a cousin who had some he never said anything about marks on the wood.

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#11 posted 07-28-2016 04:54 AM

Over-priced, over-hyped, over-weight.

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#12 posted 07-28-2016 03:39 PM

I do like a bronze plane. It is a good material for hand planes.

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#13 posted 07-28-2016 04:59 PM


Over-priced, over-hyped, over-weight.

- bandit571

I thought so until I used one. Now I have 4 and another on the way and a chisel set. Sold all my other Stanley planes.

I only had one Stanley that could come close say 9/10 score. A #4 out of set 3,4,4-1/2,5,5,5,6 and some others that I bought to refurb and sell.

Not even close. You pay for quality and you get what you pay for. Awesomeness.

Edit: their chisels are stupid awesome as well.

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#14 posted 07-28-2016 05:58 PM

I suppose..IF one has a fetish for yellow metal…...almost the same as those statues that turn green.

Quality is in HOW it is made, NOT what it is made of, nor based on how many car payments you have to skip to buy one….

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#15 posted 07-28-2016 06:53 PM

Well they oxidize same as an old cast iron plane.

How it’s made is the reason they are so pricey. What it’s made of counts because it adds weight to the smaller bodied planes (1-4 with a 4 being optional either way) and the ductility and resistance to oxidation.

I remember someone dropping a bedrock 4 recently and it snapped in half. Not gonna happen with newer planes of ductile iron and bronze.

How it is bought is each individual’s own business. Personally. Only 350$ out of however much I have spent has been put on a credit card and not bought outright. I need to build my credit so I have to spend money on something.

To each his own.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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