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mission76

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1559 days ago

I have been looking for a home for a long time, and I think I finally found one that I like. One of the main things I wanted was a basement, to put together an awesome shop. Of course the house I really want and put in bids for has only a partial basement…and even then I would imagine I would have to wall off the boiler and burner, as well as the washer and dryer…which would leave pretty much no space.

So I’m thinking that I could just make the garage a dedicated work shop..I was just thinking how to maximize space and came up with an idea of maybe using rollers for the power tools I buy. For instance I am going to buy a real table saw, instead of the worksite one I use now..a bandsaw, and a jointer. Maybe leave the table saw fixed in the center because it will be the focal point, and have the bandsaw and jointer on wheels so they could share an outlet and be pushed around or even outside if the need arises. Dust collection would be in a corner so it wount take up that much space. Anyone use something similar to this? Anyone know of heavy duty rollers that could take the weight of a jointer and bandsaw? I could have sworn I’ve seen them in some of the shop magazines and websites…anyway thanks for any replies.


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richgreer

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#1 posted 1559 days ago

I agree with your idea of keeping the TS stationary in the center. My jointer has a built in mobile base (Grizzly G0604X) which I think is inherently superior to add-on mobile bases. It works very well.

Regarding the bandsaw – - If you are getting a standard 14” bandsaw, i see no problem with putting it on a mobile base. I have a 400# 18” bandsaw and I can’t see putting anything that heavy on a mobile base.

The key in positioning your equipment is that you want a minimum of 8’ of clearance on both the infeed and the outfeed side of your TS, Jointer and planer. Not so much is needed for the bandsaw.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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pmayer

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#2 posted 1546 days ago

that is a popular setup for a shop, and will work great. I would also suggest putting the table saw on a mobile base because there may be times when you want to use the garage for cars(s) rather than just woodworking, if you are going for a stretch between projects. Also, I used to have my table saw in the center of the shop as everyone else seems to do, but I have since changed and put it against a wall. It is on a mobile base, but I have never had to move it. I keep my assembly table in the middle, so I always have a short path from the project to any tool in the shop. But, that is all personal preference. If you have everything on wheels, you have flexibility.

Before you put anything out there, I would also suggest adding a bunch more outlets (and probably a 20amp circuit or two), and 220 if you need it for your new table saw or dust collector. Also, if the garage is not insulated, do so if your climate requires. And put something up on the walls, and paint it semi-gloss or satin white. And go here to find out how many lights you need. http://www.gelighting.com/na/business_lighting/education_resources/tools_software/toolkit/layout.htm

You will be surprised at the recommended number, but I would encourage you to go with what they say. I did, and am glad I did.

Good luck!

-- PaulMayer, http://www.vernswoodgoods.com

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a1Jim

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#3 posted 1546 days ago

Putting everything on wheels makes a small space more functional.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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Jerry

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#4 posted 1546 days ago

I think I could be a pro on this subject. We have manufactured many of a custom cabinet inside a tight 18’ by 18’ garage space. We build wall units and full kitchens. I do have other places in my home where we store our built cabinets and also spray them.

With that said, we use an island concept which I believe is your best way to go. We will soon be moving to a 2800 sf shop with a separate spray booth. I am excited but we are still going to use the island concept, we will make the island larger. Like in kitchens, where you try to minimize walking distance between work stations, in a shop I aim to minimize my walking distance and a island accomplishes that.

The best advise I could probably give you would be to visit www.grizzly.com and open up their shop design software. Register with them so you can save your plans and adjust them in the future as needed. I actually designed my garage shop by using their software and I am sure I was way ahead of the game by using that software. It is easy to use and provides the drawing to scale. Very easy to use and Free!!! Using the software I managed to squeeze in a TS 3660, 3 hp shaper, 26” drum sander, 60 gallon compressor, 15” planer, 2 bench top drill presses, 10” sliding miter saw, router table, wall lumber rack, cart for sheets, lots of cabinets and a large stationary outfeed table. We are crammed in the 18’ by 18’ area, we do have a 3’ by 3’ nook area designed for a garage freezer that I use also.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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Cato

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#5 posted 1545 days ago

Mission- My set up is that way. I was fortunate that in this new house, the basement is heated and cooled.

Table saw, planer, jointer, all on mobile bases. Drill press and band saw are not. Having mobile bases helps a lot when you get more equipment and have to re-arrange. I plan to put my miter saw station and assembly table, both yet to be built on casters as well.

As other posters noted you will want adequate lighting and power outlets. I ran split circuit outlets in my shop so that each 120v plug is on its own 20 amp breaker, so if I do have two machines running at once , DC and whatever,I can use one outlet for both machines and not trip a breaker.

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griph0n

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#6 posted 1545 days ago

I have my whole shop on casters except fot the table saw, big bandsaw, and bench. Check out my workshop pics in my profile. I like the woodcraft orange wheeled casters, even though they cost twice as much by the time they cross the border to Canada. I’ve bought and abondoned a few other types of casters and nothing comes close to the little orange (red?) guys. The bandsaw is on a general mobile base, and it is no more stable than the casters, and a bigger pain in the butt to move.

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dbhost

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#7 posted 1545 days ago

Put the table saw, workbench, dust collector and lathe stationary, everything else needs to be mobile. In space constrained workshops, bench top model tools can be mounted to plywood bases, then a closet shelf standard / bracket system can be used to stack your power tools up a wall…
Dave's space saving tool stacker.

FWIW, the tools have been rearranged on that stacker, the 6” grinder is gone in favor of an 8” and Wolverine jig…

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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BOB67CAM

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#8 posted 1545 days ago

absolutely everything in my shop is on rollers which is really nice to be able to move stuff youre not using out of the way and give you the extra room, especially if making a big desk or cabinets where after you cut the main stuff on the table saw u dont need the full 8 foot space around the table saw, and 1 added nicety is dragging the tool youre using outside and enjoying the weather, i do have 1 stand which is a pain in my ass, it was the mobile base for me table saw, which i bought a new delta base for and used the craftsmen base on my bandsaw figureing it would be smaller and wouldnt be able to have so much movement…it is better but i think ill be welding it soon as thats the only way ill get it as rigid as it needs to be

-- if you dont have it, build it, especially when its a stupid idea

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thatwoodworkingguy

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#9 posted 1545 days ago

Why dont you go on grizzly.com and use there workshop planner?
Its such a great tool.

But yes the table saw as the centerpoint is usualy the most logical setup for a shop. Its good if the jointer and planer are around to because most likely at the start of a project you will be off one and on to the other.

But check out the workshop planer.

-- thatwoodworkingguy.com ~Eagle America~ ~Woodcraft~

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mission76

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#10 posted 1545 days ago

Thanks to everyone for the help..I just went for the home inspection and after thinking about it…the shop might actually fit downstairs after walling off the boiler and oil tank, and possibly moving washer and dryer to another space in the house. If not the garage will do. I just tried out the shop layout tool and you’re right it is cool. I will get the actual dimensions of the basement and garage and see which would work out better. I will post my best ideas and maybe see if anyone thinks it will work!

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lanwater

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#11 posted 1545 days ago

I also have everything on wheel. it helps enormously especially when your wife needs to park inside. I even installed caster on my work bench which I wish I had not, It makes it higher than ideal hight for me. I plan on making another one sometimes.

-- Abbas, Castro Valley, CA

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thatwoodworkingguy

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#12 posted 1545 days ago

Glad you got it all figured out

-- thatwoodworkingguy.com ~Eagle America~ ~Woodcraft~

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