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buildinhome

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07-24-2016 01:46 PM

Topic tags/keywords: logging question slabs linear board foot prices question

I am wondering if someone can answer a question for me about logging? We have had some logging done and would like to know if the price paid per linear board foot is considered payment for the slabs as well. We would like to have the slabs that are being milled, and thinking that if we are not being paid for them that we actually own them and can take them. Am I thinking right ?


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WDHLT15

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#1 posted 07-26-2016 02:22 AM

Most sawyers will give you the slabs if the logs are yours and you are having the logs milled into lumber. You should only be charged for the lumber produced, not the slabs.

-- Danny Located in Perry, GA. Forester. Wood-Mizer LT40HD35 Sawmill. Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln. hamsleyhardwood.com

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buildinhome

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#2 posted 07-27-2016 03:18 PM

The logs are cut from our property, but the logger is buying them by the board foot to saw in his own mill for resale. He turns the slabs into chips to sell as well. What I don’t quite know is if the board foot purchase price means that he is paying for the slabs as part of the log price, or if he is getting those as an unpaid bonus. If we’re not getting paid for them, then I think I own them and can bring them home to use for other projects. We’ve already done siding on a chicken coop and goat house with some he gave us. But I’d like a lot more.

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Snowbeast

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#3 posted 07-27-2016 04:23 PM

The only meaningful answer you will get is from the guy doing the logging for you. I’m pretty sure every logger has a different definition of what is included in the price he pays.

Good luck with it.

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#4 posted 07-27-2016 07:14 PM

I have some acreage in NC, and should probably learn some of this lingo. Can you help me out by explaining how you’re using the terms “lumber” and “Slabs” here?

I would have expected “lumber” and “slabs” to come out of the same usable parts of each flitch, just depends on how you slice up the log? Don’t quite understand how he is buying the wood for “lumber”, and having “slabs” leftover.

Probably I just have a wrong definition for one or both of those terms. thanks!

-- Last week I finally got my $*i# together. Unfortunately, it was in my shop, so I will probably never find it again.

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WDHLT15

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#5 posted 07-28-2016 12:31 AM

If he is buying the logs to saw lumber for resale, all the wood, including the bark and slabs are his. He is buying the whole log, not just the boards that are sawn out.

-- Danny Located in Perry, GA. Forester. Wood-Mizer LT40HD35 Sawmill. Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln. hamsleyhardwood.com

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buildinhome

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#6 posted 07-28-2016 12:59 AM

the slabs are the round edge that is cut off to make flat surfaces. They are too small for lumber size cuts and are uneven and have bark on them, and the mill shreds them for mulch and shavings.

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#7 posted 07-29-2016 10:57 PM

Generally what you are referring to as “slabs” is the sapwood. now as to who owns what depends on how the contract was written. if he is only buying by the board foot of usable material then yes technically the remains would belong to you, but he may be inclined to charge you for sawing the slabs. The only time I have heard of a buyer paying by the BF is when the grade of the log is questionable. Generally buyers pay for the whole log and that makes it all theres. you would really need to sit down with the sawyer and hash it out. possibly over a six pack.

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WDHLT15

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#8 posted 07-30-2016 01:48 AM

Logs are commonly sold by the board foot using a log scale like Doyle or International. It is how logs are sold in many places. I have never heard of the slabs not being part of the log in my 38 years of Forestry experience. At least in the South.

-- Danny Located in Perry, GA. Forester. Wood-Mizer LT40HD35 Sawmill. Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln. hamsleyhardwood.com

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rockindavan

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#9 posted 07-30-2016 03:30 AM

For some sawers it’s just waste that they either burn for heat or have to get rid of, so they might not mind having to deal with it. If they bank on using it for mulch or chips to sell, they are probably less inclined to give it away. Can’t hurt to ask.

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bondogaposis

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#10 posted 07-30-2016 01:27 PM

The price he paid you is “stumpage”. Stumpage includes the whole log. Once that is paid the logs are his and he doesn’t owe you the slabs or anything else. Some loggers may view the slabs as waste and want to give them away, but if he has a market for chips and byproducts then he has figured that in his price he paid you.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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