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Marn64

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07-23-2016 09:40 PM

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Hey everybody, so I bought that prelateral no 3 that I was talking about a few weeks ago. I got it yesterday, it has all of the original pieces and each metal part was meticulously polished by the seller. My only concern is that the japanning looks suspiciously complete. Was this plane repainted, and if it is should I worry about that? (for the record if even if it is repainted I don’t regret this purchase, all parts are original, in stellar condition, and the blade length looks like it has rarely been used)



-- Benjamin, Milwaukee


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TheFridge

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#1 posted 07-23-2016 09:43 PM

Yep. You can tell where the old japanning flaked off.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#2 posted 07-23-2016 10:16 PM


Yep. You can tell where the old japanning flaked off.

- TheFridge


what should I do about it? part of me wants to get rid of it but I have no idea how to do that without damaging the original japanning underneath.

-- Benjamin, Milwaukee

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#3 posted 07-23-2016 10:58 PM

strip it down and have it powder coated neon yellow, that way you can find it around the shop.

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#4 posted 07-23-2016 11:12 PM

Not much you can do about it. In that shape, painted over with a lot of jappaning already gone, I’d strip it down and start over.

Pretty much personal preference.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#5 posted 07-23-2016 11:36 PM

Nothing to worry about at all. Use as is.

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#6 posted 07-23-2016 11:41 PM

I’d just use it and forget about the finish. Planes are made to be used .Not collected unless you are collecting them to use.

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#7 posted 07-24-2016 02:50 AM

I agree, sharpen it up good and put it to work. I recently picked up a 5 1/4 with the same issue. I’m going to get after the Iron tomorrow and get it on the production line. Why have one if it’s not going to be used?

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#8 posted 07-24-2016 05:32 PM

Its a type 4 so it’s not extremely rare or extremely valuable, so do what you want, you won’t hurt the value.

If it were mine I’d clean it good with wd-40 and a small wire brush, then oil it with Fluid Film, and that would be that. That would go whether i was using it or keeping it for a collection, but we all have our own opinions on that.

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Marn64

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#9 posted 07-24-2016 09:34 PM



Its a type 4 so it s not extremely rare or extremely valuable, so do what you want, you won t hurt the value.

If it were mine I d clean it good with wd-40 and a small wire brush, then oil it with Fluid Film, and that would be that. That would go whether i was using it or keeping it for a collection, but we all have our own opinions on that.

- Don W


As my previous type 4’s, its a user. The repainting job wasn’t that bad so I think I will do what you would do and let it be.

-- Benjamin, Milwaukee

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#10 posted 07-24-2016 09:42 PM



should I worry about that?

- Marn64

I’d only worry if you paid market price for a plane that claimed to have 90% (or 85% or whatnot) japanning when it looks like this. The only collectible plane I have has 90% japanning and it doesn’t look like that. It’s very smooth.

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Marn64

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#11 posted 07-24-2016 09:43 PM


should I worry about that?

- Marn64

I d only worry if you paid market price for a plane that claimed to have 90% (or 85% or whatnot) japanning when it looks like this. The only collectible plane I have has 90% japanning and it doesn t look like that. It s very smooth.

- ColonelTravis


I payed 139 for it

-- Benjamin, Milwaukee

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#12 posted 07-24-2016 10:07 PM

I am in no way an expert on japanning deterioration. It appears to be a botched restore job. Real japanning is thick and baked on and when it comes off, it comes off unevenly, raggedly. Frog sides are rough metal, I can’t really tell if what you’re holding in the photo is a repaint job. If I had to guess, I’d guess the sole is repainted. Again, that’s just a guess on my part, I trust people like Don so much more to know things like that. I’m also not an expert on pre-lat value except that Type 1s & 2s can be pricey. The collectible plane of mine I mentioned I bought in person.

I’ve had very good experiences on eBay except two times when I felt like I was misled. The combined total for those two times was about $25, I didn’t bother to contact the seller or file a complaint. Wasn’t worth the hassle. My wife has had a dispute that was worth it and won. I don’t know about your case (seller photos of the plane), I certainly understand how photos can appear to present an item in better condition than when you see it with your own eyes for the first time.

I don’t know. I wish I could give you better information!

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