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Chauncey

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05-12-2010 04:32 PM

Topic tags/keywords: bevels 45 degree sled

First I must say that Lumberjocks is a wealth of information for the beginner woodworker. I really appreciate the time and effort that everyone puts into the posts. So Thanks

Ok my question. I’m attempting to make a couple of Maple Jewelry boxes as Christmas gifts. The problem I’m having is getting the beveled corners tight fitting.
I tried using my chop saw with bad results. I then went to my table saw and got somewhat better results but still a slight gap.
To give a little background the table saw I’m using is a Craftsman 10” model with a Craftsman 36 tooth carbide cutting blade both are just about 3 months old.
Is it the blade or just the guy behind the blade?

Second Question: A while back I saw a jig that was configured to cut 45 degree bevels using a 90 degree blade. basically it was a sled with too 45 on either side of the blade. With this sled it was possible to cut 45 degree bevels once you ripped your stock down to finish length without having to remeasure. If anyone knows of such a sled I would greatly appreciate the link.

Thanks
Chauncey


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Michael Murphy

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#1 posted 05-12-2010 04:42 PM

In my opinion a 36 tooth blade is a little rough to be making boxes with. I would use at least a 50 tooth combination blade or a 60 tooth ATB for that kind of work.

Is it this type of sled?
Miter sled

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rance

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#2 posted 05-12-2010 05:37 PM

Chauncey, Sounds like the standard picture frame sled. Have you checked the accuracy of your two saws. Maybe it’s time to align them before you proceed. Even new ones should be checked. Just a thought.

As for the sled, cutting the 2nd end of a stick not only bevels it, but cuts it to length as well. In other words, you generally don’t cut to length and THEN bevel it. Keep in mind also that not only is the bevel accuracy imperitive, also the lengths of opposing sides must be EXACTLY the same.

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#3 posted 05-12-2010 05:49 PM

Michael’s sled is very similar to one I use. It is obviously ‘home made’ and works great for small pieces like picture frames, door moulding and trim, etc.

For larger pieces, like box parts, I believe you should be able to achieve good results with your Craftsman saw set at 45° . Keep in mind that if it says 45° , it may not actually be 45° . 10 inch contractors saws constantly need tweaking and massaging to work accurately.

In addition to your saw angle being dead-on accurate, your mitre gauge may need adjusting also. It should be dead-on perpendicular to your blade.

Spend a little money and get that 50 or 60 tooth blade that Michael suggested and it will quickly become your “go to” blade for numerous projects. That 36 tooth blade will be quickly forgotten or only used for rougher cuts.

Google “table saw tune-up” and you will find lots of help setting that saw up accurately.

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#4 posted 05-12-2010 06:16 PM

For small parts, a shooting board with the appropriate ramps and fences is pretty hard to beat.

http://lumberjocks.com/projects/31882

It may seem like more work but once set up it works great. And for small parts, it is (in my opinion) safer than power tools.

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Chauncey

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#5 posted 05-12-2010 06:27 PM

In my opinion a 36 tooth blade is a little rough to be making boxes with. I would use at least a 50 tooth combination blade or a 60 tooth ATB for that kind of work.
Is it this type of sled?

Thanks for your reply. I picked up a 60 tooth blade this morning and cant wait to try it out. The sled in the photo is not the one I was thinking of.

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Jim Crockett (USN Retired)

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#6 posted 05-12-2010 06:37 PM

Chauncey, I know which sled you are thinking of and am pretty sure that I have some plans somewhere. I’m off to a doctor’s appointment right now but will try to find the plans later this afternoon/evening.

Jim

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Jim Crockett (USN Retired)

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#7 posted 05-13-2010 03:12 AM

Chauncey, what you are seeking is called a bevel sled.

There is a plan for a bevel sled available for download at the WoodStore (Wood Magazine’s store) ($1.99).

“Taunton’s Complete Illustrated Guide to Jigs & Fixtures”, portions of which can be viewed through Google Books, contains an article with instructions for using a bevel sled. It can be accessed here.

EHow has an article on “How to Make Woodworking Bevel Cutting Jigs, located here (no pictures or plans, just written instructions).

I hope that this will get you started. You can find more information by googling “Bevel Sled”.

Jim

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Chauncey

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#8 posted 05-13-2010 04:11 PM

Thanks Jim. You have no idea how many searches I did for this sled. Thanks again.

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