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drtom

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07-15-2016 10:08 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question joining split crack join repair glue remove frame drum

Greetings LumberJocks,

This is my first post on this site and want to thank you all for being here. I’m not a woodworker by trade, but I’m pretty handy and have even worked briefly at a couple of cabinet shops.

I have a large frame drum that’s splitting in two.

The split is severe and runs 2/3 around the frame. The drum head is intact, so I want to get the frame back in one solid piece. My thought is to drill a series of holes above and below the crack, apply some glue, then press the frame back together with something like small hose clamps or zip ties.

I have three questions for you gurus:

1. Is this a good approach or is there a better solution?
2. Is there a better option than hose clamps or zip ties?
3. How can I remove the glue (water based) from someone else’s previous attempted repair? (Please keep in mind that the skin must not get wet or damaged in any way.)

Thank you in advance for your advice.

-- Dr. Tom (www,drumdr.com)


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AandCstyle

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#1 posted 07-15-2016 10:48 PM

Tom, I don’t want to be down beat, but the frame split (maybe twice) for a reason. I doubt that a “simple” reglue would solve the underlying issue. Unless you can solve the main issue, I doubt you will be able to effect a permanent repair. That said, I am not a luthier, nor do I play one on TV. FWIW

-- Art

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#2 posted 07-15-2016 11:50 PM


I doubt that a “simple” reglue would solve the underlying issue.

- AandCstyle


I agree that a simple reglue is likely to fail, that’s why I plan to use hose clamps, zip ties or some other type of fastener.

I appreciate any and all feedback.

-- Dr. Tom (www,drumdr.com)

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#3 posted 08-06-2016 03:45 PM

OK, figured it out.

Thanks anyway.

-- Dr. Tom (www,drumdr.com)

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#4 posted 08-06-2016 03:56 PM

Thanks. The least you could do is tell us how you are going to fix it.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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#5 posted 08-06-2016 04:00 PM

Epoxy and pipe clamps should work, I think :)

-- Yonatan24, http://www.instructables.com/member/Yonatan24

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#6 posted 08-06-2016 09:22 PM

It looks like it split along a glue line. Is it two pieces being held together or one with the wood just splitting? I know nothing about frame drums but wonder if the epoxy might change the resonance of the frame and dampen or distort the sound? Maybe all the sound comes from the drum head.

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2

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#7 posted 08-06-2016 10:42 PM



Thanks. The least you could do is tell us how you are going to fix it.

- johnstoneb


I came here thinking some wisdom and experience might be found here. Maybe this site is more of a place to showcase your talent. Now I know.

-- Dr. Tom (www,drumdr.com)

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#8 posted 08-06-2016 10:51 PM


Epoxy and pipe clamps should work, I think :)

- Yonatan24

I don’t think a simple reglue will suffice. This is a 1/4” slab of wood, so the surface area available for bonding is quite limited. That’s why I suggest some sort of clamp to augment and probably take on most of the load. When I mention zip ties and hose clamps it’s not as a means to press the pieces back together but as a means to keep them there.

-- Dr. Tom (www,drumdr.com)

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#9 posted 08-06-2016 10:52 PM

Drtom, There is plenty of wisdom and experience here. Many people would like to help but you have to give them time to respond. That being said Here is a bit of wisdom for you [comment removed by admin]. That’s a promise, don’t know how to fix it but I know that much.

-- "Boy you could get more work done it you quit flapping your pie hole" Grandpa

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#10 posted 08-06-2016 11:08 PM



It looks like it split along a glue line. Is it two pieces being held together or one with the wood just splitting? I know nothing about frame drums but wonder if the epoxy might change the resonance of the frame and dampen or distort the sound? Maybe all the sound comes from the drum head.

- Mark Shymanski

This is a single plank that’s been softened (probably steam) and joined at the ends into a hoop. The epoxy or any other sort of adhesive would have little or no effect on the sound.

-- Dr. Tom (www,drumdr.com)

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#11 posted 08-06-2016 11:13 PM

“YOU ARE ABOUT TO FUCK IT UP”. That s a promise, don t know how to fix it but I know that much.
- jwmalone

If so, this will be the very first time I’ve “EVER” managed “THAT”.

It’s funny that now that I’ve made the repair you show interest.

-- Dr. Tom (www,drumdr.com)

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#12 posted 08-06-2016 11:20 PM

If you can clamp it to close the crack do that, then go on the inside place a piece of fiber glass cloth then brush on some liquid fiber glass or you can do the same thing with epoxy and any type of lose weave cloth. I’m only saying that for the drums sake lol.

-- "Boy you could get more work done it you quit flapping your pie hole" Grandpa

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#13 posted 08-06-2016 11:32 PM



If you can clamp it to close the crack do that, then go on the inside place a piece of fiber glass cloth then brush on some liquid fiber glass or you can do the same thing with epoxy and any type of lose weave cloth. I m only saying that for the drums sake lol.

- jwmalone


You know, I’m actually familiar with that procedure but hadn’t thought of it. I’ve had occasion to use it on another drum, but it hadn’t occurred to me that it might apply to this one.

That’s why I came here. I knew many of you have plenty of knowledge and experience to share. You’re all experts whereas I just dabble, so you’re bound to know of techniques, tools, implements and gadgets I’m not aware of.

Thanks for the suggestion.

-- Dr. Tom (www,drumdr.com)

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#14 posted 08-07-2016 12:23 AM

IM no expert, But I pay attention when the experts are talking. You’re welcome, I’m more of a wind instrument guy myself. There are also several guys on here that make musical instruments its an entirely different beast. Good luck.

-- "Boy you could get more work done it you quit flapping your pie hole" Grandpa

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