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Forum topic by slick1 posted 05-09-2010 02:27 PM 6699 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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05-09-2010 02:27 PM

What would be the best type of thinner & ratio for 1 US gal. of OLD MASTERS MARINE SPAR VARNISH, high gloss. Brushing onto 5/16” knotty pine V-joint on interior of outdoor shed.

-- - - - Rod , Lloydminster, Saskatchewan, Canada


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#1 posted 05-09-2010 03:24 PM

Mineral spirits should work, although I wouldn’t try to thin it too much….. maybe 1 part thinner to 10 parts varnish. The more you thin it, the more you are reducing the protective properties of the varnish.

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#2 posted 05-09-2010 04:29 PM

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#3 posted 05-09-2010 04:37 PM

I agree with hobomonk above. I just thinned some “and the can said” thin 20-50%, I thinned about 30% with paint thinner and it worked fine. The thinning really helped with a shorter drying time.

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#4 posted 05-09-2010 04:39 PM

hobomonk said: “I would suggest following the instructions on the label and/or referring to their website.”

Interesting that you didn’t say that when Zinsser said not to use polyurethane on top of their sealer. Must be that “internet expertise” we’ve all heard about.

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#5 posted 05-10-2010 12:50 AM

Thanks all !
Great read Shopguryl. Learned alot.

I read somewhere that Japan Drier is ok to use with spar varnish , but is it ok to put Japan drier in with a thinned spar varnish ??

-- - - - Rod , Lloydminster, Saskatchewan, Canada

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#6 posted 05-10-2010 12:51 AM

Rod, it will brush on without thinning but this is somewhat prone to runs and sags.

If you want to thin it out in order to make it flow easier then Charlie’s comment is pretty good. You can thin it from 10 to 50 percent with mineral spirits but, the more you thin it, the more coats you will need to apply to get an equivalent build. It should work just fine for your application. If I were doing something like this I would apply at least two full coats. I have pine exterior doors that I originally finished with spar urethane over 20 years ago. All three doors are exposed to the sun and I have refinished them only once in the ensuing period.

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#7 posted 05-10-2010 03:53 AM

Japan drier doesn’t need to be added to thinned varnish if the undiluted varnish drys okay without it. Thinning the varnish doesn’t change the ratio of active components, it only dilutes them. Curing (polymerization) of the finish occurs after the solvent evaporates.

Hope this makes sense.

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#8 posted 10-19-2011 01:15 AM

I’ve mentioned this on another thread already, but it might be worth bringing it up here. In California there is now a substitute for mineral spirits that has a mix of acetone and petroleum spirits. I recently tried to thin spar varnish with it and got a strange buttery matte finish. A chemist friend suggests the acetone is causing the resin to separate out of the varnish. This kind of mix should be avoided.

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