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Forum topic by ki7hy posted 07-14-2016 05:12 PM 547 views 1 time favorited 18 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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ki7hy

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07-14-2016 05:12 PM

All,

I am going to grab up a new plane for the shooting board. I have and use about 7 different bench planes already, all of them are Stanley and all of them are over 100 years ole. I kind of like all of them. I do not have anything “new” except my router plane which is a Veritas and I only did that because it has the cool inlay tool, fence, and cost wasn’t bad with the added benefits.

I want an old Stanley 62 but they are hard to find in the normal spots I go and Ebay is expensive. I’ve been thinking about getting the VeritasĀ® Low-Angle Smooth Plane for shooting board operations and of course I could use it as a smoother too I suppose.

Thoughts?


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#1 posted 07-14-2016 05:25 PM

A low angle jack (modern version of the stanley 62) would be better as it has more mass. The best of all would be a dedicated shooter plane, but those are more money. I got mine really cheap, otherwise I wouldn’t have it.

-- The quality of one's woodworking is directly related to the amount of flannel worn.

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#2 posted 07-14-2016 05:34 PM

I thought about that one as well but it was more money and I don’t know if I need the added mass just to shoot thin shavings off a board. If it were heavy shavings sure but maybe I’m not thinking this through. Maybe someone with the little guy will chime in to see. I do like the size for portability, I do woodworking when I visit family and would like something to add to my kit that’s manageable. Of course I could make room for either if my experience would be better.

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#3 posted 07-14-2016 05:38 PM

You need the mass for end grain shavings mostly.

-- Allen, Colorado

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#4 posted 07-14-2016 05:47 PM

I would argue a sharp blade is what you need for end grain over mass. Throwing a 6lb plane across the shooting board and holding your work steady at the same time works but not using all of the energy you could by just chucking it across the room.

I see the benefit of mass but a sharp blade will do the trick. I currently use a number 6 on the shooting board, sometimes a 5, sometimes a 4 if that’s what is handy. I guess I’m just new to the low angle bit. Maybe mass needs to be a consideration but overall, I find the sharpest blade usually can flatten things with a thin shaving.

Good points, looking for more.

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#5 posted 07-14-2016 06:40 PM

Any sharp plane can work as a shooting plane, as long as the side is flat, but there are definite advantages to a heavier plane and low attack angle.

I started by using a #5 as a shooting plane and then went to a #6 before building a dedicated shooting plane last year. Mass is a serious benefit, especially if you can get it in a compact package. If you haven’t used a denser, heavier plane when shooting end grain, you just don’t realize how much it can help. My shooting plane is nearly 10lbs and once you get that mass moving, it cleanly slices almost anything.

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A lower angle and skewed blade are also benefits when it comes to end grain. Since with end grain, you are severing the fibers instead of separating them like when planing face grain, the lower angle helps to accomplish that.

A dedicated shooting plane is nice, because it’s designed to place your hand in a good position. If you are going to use a bench plane, low angle or not, a hot dog or other auxiliary handle really helps.

-- "Good judgement is the result of experience. A lot of experience is the result of poor judgement."

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#6 posted 07-14-2016 07:00 PM

I have the lee valley shooting plane have used it lately making picture frame .It is a pleasure to use to take those thin shavings. Was using my low angle jack from lee valley first could never get the control and feel for getting a good shaving . The diacated shooting plane haw made getting those thin shaving so much easier .Dont think you would regret buying .

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ki7hy

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#7 posted 07-14-2016 07:01 PM

That is one fancy plane JayT. I have a 7 and an 8 but never really used them for shooting due to their size. Maybe I should give them a go too. My 7 is setup to smooth and the 8 eats wood like no tomorrow so I’ll play with the 7 I suppose. OR….Jay should just make another one of those and send it my way!!

I always knew the 7 or 8 would be better at shooting but it’s easier to use something smaller and keep the work piece in place so I have always just made sure my irons were sharp. It’s worked well so far. Was hoping for a more mobile.

Definitely wouldn’t be opposed to trying my hand at making what you made there Jay, would LOVE one of those. The shooting board made to match the plane is ideal too….sigh.

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#8 posted 07-14-2016 07:10 PM

The mass of a 7 or 8 would be great for shooting, but the length would be a hindrance. Those shooters I made are 16in long, so about the size of a 5-1/2, but twice the mass.

I’d gladly make and sell you a set, but they don’t come cheap because of the time involved. If, however, you are seriously up for making one yourself, I’m planning to build one more and blog the whole thing. When I built those two, a few other people asked for a how-to type blog so they could build their own, as well. I didn’t have time last year, but am planning to start the build of the next one here in a week or two.

-- "Good judgement is the result of experience. A lot of experience is the result of poor judgement."

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ki7hy

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#9 posted 07-14-2016 07:19 PM

PM sent Jay.

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#10 posted 07-14-2016 08:07 PM

I have a 5 1/2 Stan., but I use my #7 most of the time. It just works for me.
Don’t know if there is a “pat” answer. Use what works.
Bill

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#11 posted 07-14-2016 08:12 PM

I agree Bill and I usually do but I would like to get smoother easier cuts. I have the 7 but it’s long. I’ll start shooting with that for awhile until I figure out what I want to do I suppose.

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#12 posted 07-14-2016 08:17 PM

I use both a LA jack and a #6. Almost like the 6 better due to weight.

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#13 posted 07-14-2016 09:16 PM

You could always just build a ramped shooting board for now and use a normal bench plane. Sure it’s not as nice as a low angle plane or a dedicated shooter, but it’s essentially free and will help some. More of a slicing cut.

Partway down this page explains it a bit better. Not a true slicing cut, but better than straight on.

http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ShopMadeTools/Setting%20Up%20and%20Using%20a%20Shooting%20Board4.html

-- The quality of one's woodworking is directly related to the amount of flannel worn.

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#14 posted 07-14-2016 09:25 PM

I thought about that jmartel. The problem with that is, I like to take a box of tools with my to visit family. I’m actually building a smaller joiners chest right now to store things in. Having the flat shooting board is perfect, something sloped takes a lot of extra space. Adding a plane (or even replacing one in the box already) would work out better. I think I am going to build Jay’s plane. He’s talked me into it….ok, he didn’t really try to but he’s been a huge help. Not only is it beautiful but it’s not expensive and it would be something I built so it’s more meaningful anyway.

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#15 posted 07-14-2016 09:25 PM

Thanks for all the help guys.

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