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HuntleyBill

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1527 days ago

I have had my HF dust collection for about a year. It has been working great up until the last day or two. The suction just doesn’t seem to be what it used to be. Up until recently, when you turned it on, the filter would fill up with air in a snap and be tight as a balloon. At any one of the ports, the volume of air was such that it could actually pick up big chunks of wood ( I tried not to do that on purpose ).

I took the dust bag/filter off and shook it out ( it was pretty dirty ). I put it back on and the bag/filter instead of filling tight with air just sags and droops. I disconnected the DC from the plumbing in the shop to rule out plumbing. I don’t hear anything unusual in the sound of the unit. I stuck my hand in to check the fins…yes, AFTER it was off…and it doesn’t seem to be loose, but there doesn’t seem to be a lot of air coming out of the big grey hose that hooks into the separator from the blower motor.

Has anyone else had any issues with this and how can I fix it? I don’t want to use some of my bigger tools until I get this dust collection working again.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thank you
Bill

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CL810

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#1 posted 1527 days ago

Check for dust build up on the blades co.

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Chase

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#2 posted 1527 days ago

I have one of these units, but haven’t had this particular problem as of yet. My guess would be to take absolutely everything off the blower. it sounds like you have mostly done this already. pull off the inlet and outlet hoses. Turn the unit on, and watch the blades. There might be something damaged in a way that isn’t obvious by looking at them. Do they spin pretty freely if you try to spin the blower by hand?

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knothead

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#3 posted 1527 days ago

If you are able. remove the filter and push it outside and run it if the suction is normal again maybe a new filter bag or canister is in order. Humidity and fine dust could have fouled the filter to the point that it will never perform well again no matter how you try to clean it. Or a collapsed flexible duct. Just a thought. People generally seem to like the HF dust collector so there should be a solution out there for you.

Chris

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wdwrkr

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#4 posted 1527 days ago

It sounds like the motor speed/direction may be the problem. If you’ve made any wiring changes:
Check the line voltage – if it’s wired for 240 and running at 120, your air velocity will be reduced.
If it’s three phase, and two legs have been switched, the motor will run backwards.
If the motor isn’t running at full speed, you could have a problem with the bearings, or possibly the start or run capacitors.

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HuntleyBill

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#5 posted 1527 days ago

OK…I figured it out. Seems this mental genious inadvertantly sucked up a couple of pieces of sand paper and it blocked the inlet where the “Y” pipe fits on the blower.

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Chase

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#6 posted 1527 days ago

Not at all, this kind of stuff happens all the time. Just break the problem down into bite size little pieces till you find the little one that is giving you an issue. Congrats on the fix, now get out there and work some wood!

-- Every neighborhood has an eccentric neighbor. I wondered for years "who was ours?" Then I realized it was me.

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#7 posted 1527 days ago

Hate when that happens :)

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#8 posted 1527 days ago

You figured it out before I posted it. I am assuming you don’t have a pre-separator in line with this thing… I lost suction on mine even WITH a pre separator in place as the looooong stringy shavings from planing 10” wide cedar jammed the cross piece up but quick because they managed to fill the drop slot in my separator… I think I don’t have enough space under my elbow though…

The first thing to check if you lose suction on one of these is the lines going into it, starting at that Y and cross piece since it is the most commonly jammed item. I cut mine out, which may or may not have been a mistake…

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Mark Shymanski

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#9 posted 1499 days ago

Did the same thing as dbhost, went to clean up around the bench after flattening some boards with my LV plane and the shavings wrapped themselves around a wee set of bars downstream from the y connector. Presumeably those little bars are there to protect the fan blades…mind you the sound of the DC did change.

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rance

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#10 posted 1499 days ago

Shouldn’t this be a tool review? Someone found another HF tool that didn’t suck. :D Actually I have several HF tools, and plan on buying more.

Maybe design/install a suckometer to monitor the CFM. A visible indicator might be nice for times like these. Thanks for keeping us informed.

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a1Jim

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#11 posted 1499 days ago

usally it’s duct work or a clog at the intake

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#12 posted 1499 days ago

BoardSMITH, I bet you got shredded tweet! :D

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rance

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#13 posted 1499 days ago

ROTFLOL.

Shreaded tweet? I don’t care who you are. That was funnny.

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Deaner

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#14 posted 184 days ago

Where can I get one of them suckometers? I’d like to have one.

I just bought a new JET 1100 1-1/2 HP Vortex collector with cannister ($600 at Woodcrafters). With no ductwork or tools hooked up to it, you’d think it would suck more than it does at the intake. It came prewired 115, and I converted it to 220….and that was so sraightforward even I couldn’t mess it up to get the weak suck I’m getting. Maybe this suck level is normal, but I think it should be more than it is? I’m pretty certain my line in is a full 240 as all my tools run on that circuit, but I’ll check tonight when I get home.

Anyway- a suckometer might be useful if I can find one- what are they called?

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garbonsai

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#15 posted 184 days ago

I’ve run into the exact same problem with the exact same dust collector, although it turned out to be plastic shavings causing the clog (I ran a piece of UHMW through the planer). I’m thinking about modifying the Y connector so there’s a quick-release spring-loaded pin holding on instead of the short screw.

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