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Forum topic by AZWoody posted 07-11-2016 03:25 PM 754 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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AZWoody

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07-11-2016 03:25 PM

I’ve been looking up craigslist, machinery auctions and haven’t been able to find a large 20”-24” jointer within a decent distance to drive for me and that’s not also completely overpriced.

Yesterday, I was looking at this one on ebay but something strikes me as odd.
He has it listed as a 12” but the measurements he has for it doesn’t make sense. So I asked him and he said the knives are 20”, so that works, but look at the outfeed table. Was there a use for some machines for something other than flattening that would require a short outfeed? I don’t know if this is more for a patternmaker or something like that.

If i can get him to a better price, I would be interested but just hesitating due to the table layout. I am wanting this mainly for flattening slabs from the sawmill.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SA-Woods-Machine-Company-12-Jointer-5HP-220440v-7192-/160982074388


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#1 posted 07-11-2016 04:47 PM

That’s a 3-phase motor, I assume you know.

I don’t know why the outfeed is short. I’ve noticed on the new grizzleys that some have the outfeed shorter than the infeed, which doesn’t make sense to me either.

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#2 posted 07-11-2016 04:52 PM



That s a 3-phase motor, I assume you know.

I don t know why the outfeed is short. I ve noticed on the new grizzleys that some have the outfeed shorter than the infeed, which doesn t make sense to me either.

- Ocelot

Yes, I have 3 phase in my shop. This is just an oddity though, all the older ones I have seen are massive and this is the first time I have seen one with this weird set of dimensions. It looks like it’s in good condition and a good deal though for what it is.

Where I see them mostly shorter nowadays is in the combo jointer/planers but maybe this is a new trend that this old jointer tried back in the day….

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#3 posted 07-11-2016 05:17 PM

I’d guess the usable distance between the fence and
guard pivot are around 12”. Some older jointers are
like that.

Ask on owwm.org. That’s the place where the guys
who know this stuff hang out.

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#4 posted 07-11-2016 05:56 PM

As I look at the pics, It does look like the guard has a pivot pin mounted right into the side of the table, and you may lose 3” there. On the other side (drive sheave), it looks like the knives are about 1” inside the edge of the table…not sure how the fence fits across that. To me it looks plausible for the table width to be 25”, and the knives only 20”. Not sure why the outfeed is so short, but like someone mentioned some Grizzly jointers are made that way…seems to me like the Delta has a very long infeed and not-so-long outfeed as well. Anyway, I would think you could put rollers or such at the outfeed if that’s the only concern.

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#5 posted 07-11-2016 05:59 PM

OWWM might comment on a machine that’s for sale…
They DO know their stuff…

-- "I cut it twice and it's still too short"

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#6 posted 07-12-2016 02:28 AM


As I look at the pics, It does look like the guard has a pivot pin mounted right into the side of the table, and you may lose 3” there. On the other side (drive sheave), it looks like the knives are about 1” inside the edge of the table…not sure how the fence fits across that. To me it looks plausible for the table width to be 25”, and the knives only 20”. Not sure why the outfeed is so short, but like someone mentioned some Grizzly jointers are made that way…seems to me like the Delta has a very long infeed and not-so-long outfeed as well. Anyway, I would think you could put rollers or such at the outfeed if that s the only concern.

- Fred Hargis

The only reservation I have about rollers is getting them set just right so as to not raise or lower the stock as it’s passing over.

The more I look at the fence though, I can remove that as mostly what I’m wanting it for is face jointing. If I want to joint an edge, I still have my 8” jointer for that.

That might get me to more usable work area.

Someone said earlier they see large jointer like that come up cheap all the time in auctions. Wish I was in their area to see that…

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#7 posted 07-12-2016 12:19 PM

I see there’s 9 people “watching” the listing, so just remember ….




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#8 posted 07-12-2016 12:26 PM

I have a 12” Crescent that I’m slowing getting put back together the way I want it and the table is very wide much like the one you have referenced. For any given width jointer, I’d rather have too much table than not enough and most of the older ones look like they were made the same way.

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#9 posted 07-12-2016 01:32 PM



I have a 12” Crescent that I m slowing getting put back together the way I want it and the table is very wide much like the one you have referenced. For any given width jointer, I d rather have too much table than not enough and most of the older ones look like they were made the same way.

- bigblockyeti

How long are the knives on yours? Are they way wider than 12” but the guard and fence cover a large portion of them, giving you a 12” usable area?

And as for other people watching the auction, I’m not going to worry if others grab it. I’m not in a major rush to needing a large jointer. It’s just something that would be nice to have right away, but I can always wait.

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#10 posted 07-12-2016 01:58 PM

They are right at 12” but I could have some cut at about 12 3/8” and still fit which I may do in the future. The cutterhead is right at 12” so even 1/4” wider on each end would be more than I would want to do and at the operator side and additional 3/16” is about all that would clear the bearing housing.

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