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botanist

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05-03-2010 05:13 PM

I recently scored a Ridgid R4511 table saw at a Home Depot in O’Fallon Illinois (they still have one as of Friday, April 30 for $399, plus one of the closeout jointers) but I have some questions.

I’m not all that impressed by the Hercu-lift mobile base because it seems like it has some troubles with the latch catching. Has anyone else had this problem? Another question I have about the mobile base is how tight should I make the bolts that attach the mobile base to the legs? The manual said the screws should freely pivot, but I don’t know how tight is too tight, or if it really matters.

Did anyone else have a large collection of washers and lock washers left over? I’ve pored through the manual to make sure I used washers everywhere I was supposed to, but I still have several left over.

Did anyone else get frustrated when they realized that the bolts the attach the front fence supports use an allen key with imperial measurements and not metric like every other bolt?


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#1 posted 05-03-2010 05:22 PM

people have mixed opinions on the herc-u-lift mechanism. I personally love it. its easy to use, glides smoothly, and drops down on all 4 legs. there are ways to tune the U bolt to overcome some frustrations with it though – FYI, the “U” bolt supposedly only has 1 way it should be installed, try flipping it end for end.

as for the bolts being loose – if I recall correctly the nuts are lock nuts, so you should just tighten them till they are flush with the end of the bolt, not any further. as for spare parts – I don’t remember having any – but I may have. it is not rare for factories to supply with extra bolts/washers in case some get lost/broken/else.

good luck. and yes- the manual is horrible.

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#2 posted 05-03-2010 05:27 PM

I figured that there would be extra materials included, just wasn’t expecting so much. I’ll try flipping the “U” bolt to see if that works better. I love having the mobile base, but the large crack in my garage floor makes it hard to move around.

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#3 posted 05-03-2010 05:31 PM

what exactly are you left with? (we’re not talking an extra motor are we? lol)

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#4 posted 05-03-2010 05:38 PM

I was left with the bolts and washers from the steel frame (expected), but I was also left with maybe 5-10 small washers and maybe 5 or so lock washers. I’ve pored through the manual and inspected every inch of the saw to make sure I’m not missing a washer anywhere, but still no idea about why there were so many extras. I can’t imagine someone losing or breaking that many washers. It seems like overkill in my opinion. At least I’ll have extras for other projects. Now I just need to figure out what I can do with that steel frame the saw came in…

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#5 posted 05-03-2010 05:41 PM

I finally took the herculift assembly off and threw it away in a fit of frustration. I put the saw on a mobile base that I had from another tool and it is fine now. I am sure there is a way to tune up your lift but the directions leave much to be desired.
Otherwise I am pretty happy with the saw, one difficulty is tilting the blade to 45 degrees, it seems to bind up at about 43 degrees and I need to torque it pretty hard to get to 45 even though I’ve adjusted the stop bolt several times. I think there is still something I’m not understanding, maybe I will start another thread and see if anyone else has the problem.

Paul

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#6 posted 05-03-2010 05:46 PM

if it’s just lock washers, I wouldn’t worry about it, considering that you used all necessary washers to lock all bolts these indeed would be extras and nothing more.

put in a bag/box with a small paper inside labeling them as part of the 4511 saw, and store for future needs.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#7 posted 05-03-2010 06:00 PM

Ya, I just built mine a couple of weeks ago. I too with throw my considerable weight on the ‘these instructions suck’ bandwagon.

Leftover parts: Yep, I had a few bolts and washers left over. I went back through the entire build process with a fine toothed comb and couldn’t find a home for them. The saw works great, nothing rattles or falls off so I think I got it all right.

Herc-u-lift: I like it, I have no issues with it other than the fact that it’s a little unsteady when moving it across uneven ground, tends to be a bit wobbly. Since I don’t intend to move it at all, I’m happy it’s there in the event that I need to move it, but won’t be affected by any inadequacies it has.

Hercu-u-lift bolts: I found this confusing as well, until I built the base and played with it. You have to keep put the nuts on just until they bind up on the nylon insert in the nut. The bolts should have lots of play. The amount of play allows the mechanism to buckle out of the way when the saw is on the stand, but stay in line for when you engage it. You can definitely overtighten these….and you’ll find that it doesn’t end up dropping much when you disengage the lift. The guys at Home Depot who built the floor model overtightened them and the whole things only dropped about 1/4” when disengaged. They extended the leveling bolts to the max as I suspect it didn’t come up off the wheels after they built it.

Hex/allen bolts sizes: Heck ya! This annoyed me big time. I figured they would include the right sized allen key, despite including 6 of them in total. I did not have the right sized one in my shop, but I had a few extras that were slightly larger, so I just ground one down to the right size. I did find this pretty wierd, but it worked eventually.

Congrats on the saw…a couple of weeks with this saw and I’m very happy with it myself.

-- Ian - Life's a game, if you don't play, you can't win.

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#8 posted 05-03-2010 06:01 PM

Paul, you should definitely keep the lift as purplev suggests. I have this saw and on occasion it doesnt click into place. It does take a bit of a stomp, and I might have adjusted a few things once or twice before I was really happy. The thing is that if you ever end up putting a DC on it, then the lift lets you have the dust chute and the mobile capabilities. Just a suggestion.

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#9 posted 05-03-2010 06:10 PM

If you have questions or anything else about this saw, go to the rigid forum ,every question has already been answered multiple times.

http://www.ridgidforum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=4

Well adjusted the Herc-u-lift works just fine

-- Bert

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#10 posted 05-04-2010 11:50 PM

+1 on the ridgidforum

I printed out a few of the help/build instructions that some of the guys posted, and they were invaluable when putting mine together. I couldn’t image trying to build it with just the supplied instructions. They were totally inadequate…borderline useless.

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#11 posted 05-05-2010 12:14 AM

+2 on ridgidforum… take a chill pill and search herculift on the site. There are all kinds of suggestions regarding the system and once you get it fixed, you’ll like it… I know how the instructions tend to drive you nuts… the same guy that wrote the directions must be in charge of the marketing program for the saw… SIGH!

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#12 posted 05-05-2010 12:24 AM

Hey guys (that own the R4511), don’t forget the recall! Saw this note on the RIDGID forum.

If you own an R4511 Granite Top Table Saw, please follow the link below. An issue was discovered that requires user action. Please pass along to anyone that may not regularly visit RIDGID.com or this forum.

http://www.ridgid.com/Download/R4511_PR.pdf

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#13 posted 05-05-2010 01:14 AM

I put mine together about a month ago ( bought it back during the winter) no leftover parts . The hurculift does take some time to setup and adjust but once you get it right it works great . I assembled the lift off the saw and set the cabinet on top . This helped getting the lift setup right . That U bolt is adjustable and the open part should face the back of the saw .

The instructions can be somewhat confusing , I used them a long with the other smaller parts booklet to figure everything out . it took me a good 6 – 8 hours to put that beast together by myself . That didn’t include the Incra fence , that took another 3 hours to get setup and fine tune it .

I didn’t use the Ridgid fence , a few months back I found a great deal on a used Incra TS fence which I love . Put a Forrest blade and dampener on it, it runs smooth and cuts nice . My next purchase for it is going to be the Osborne EB3 miter gauge .

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