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Forum topic by Holbs posted 07-03-2016 11:54 PM 1249 views 0 times favorited 17 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Holbs

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07-03-2016 11:54 PM

A sweet day at a local in person auction which leaves me in a bind. I now own two cabinet saws: a previously purchased $500 Delta Unisaw Right Tilt 3HP single phase that I have torn down and added new belts and bearings too already. And my newly $150 purchase of a PM66 beast. A pic of both my Unisaw (with my bosch 4100 saw) and PM66. $35 veritas shoulder plane and $20 lie-nielson side rabbit planes:

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I have not powered on the PM66. It still resides at the auction house because I had no expectations to buy it. But when the only bidder was at $125, I could not resist. I have to return to dis-assemble and transport it next saturday. Nor could I tell if it is 3phase or single phase. It came from a hobby wood worker and it was working at last report (I hope hobby means not 3phase cabinet shop).
I have decisions to make yet again. I could go the route of both Unisaw and PM66 facing each other for outfeed supports and have 1 dedicated for dado’s. Could keep the bosch for MDF cutting outside. Bleh bleh bleh. I guess what I’m asking is there any downsides of each saw facing each other? Both have Beiseymeyer fences and rails of 4’. Or I could go side-by-side configuration. Unsure if side by side is beneficial though.

-- Yes, my profile picture is of a Carpenter Bee! The name is derived from the Ancient Greek "wood-cutter"


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DirtyMike

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#1 posted 07-03-2016 11:59 PM

wow, I have heard of stories like this….

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#2 posted 07-04-2016 12:01 AM

If I had brought additional funds, I could of bought a 8” Grizzly with spiral cutterhead jointer for $150. But alas… I had to stop somewhere. It was a surprise PM66 purchase for sure.

-- Yes, my profile picture is of a Carpenter Bee! The name is derived from the Ancient Greek "wood-cutter"

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#3 posted 07-04-2016 12:21 AM

Man, that is one amazing haul there.

Are you going to keep the Unisaw? If so, are they close enough in height to put them back to back?

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#4 posted 07-04-2016 12:52 AM

Because I put on new belts, tore and rebuild with new bearings, I would like to keep the Unisaw. I would like them to be face to face having miter slots lined up (of course, no idea if miter slots are universally uniform or not). Unsure if the PM66 is exact to Unisaw height, but that can be fixed.
Or…if face to face, have as in PM66 table blade at the 4’ Unisaw fence mark and vice versa. Would have to notch out the fence rails but still possible. Probably would work better than lining up miter slots :)

-- Yes, my profile picture is of a Carpenter Bee! The name is derived from the Ancient Greek "wood-cutter"

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#5 posted 07-04-2016 01:01 AM

”A sweet day at a local in person auction which leaves me in a bind.

It was your choice. You have made you be now you have to sleep in it. My mother told me that many times as I was growing up.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#6 posted 07-04-2016 11:11 AM

In the world of “you suck”, this one is a doozie…in all capital letters!

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#7 posted 07-04-2016 12:21 PM

This buy has MAJOR SUCKAGE !!!

Congrats !

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#8 posted 07-04-2016 01:27 PM

It looks like you’re starting out with the Powermatic in much better condition than the planer you rebuilt. You’re in a nice position to decide what is the best setup. I’ve seen both setups (face to face and side by side). It sounds like space is not an issue, since you didn’t bring that up as a criterion. Let us know if the miter slots line up, but I doubt there is a standard. I can tell you that Craftsman and Unisaw slots do not line up, as I had to make a cross cut sled for each one.

Congrats on a very nice group of gets. I doubt that I could have resisted the PM66 for $150 either, and I’m guessing many of us here could not (or would not) have either. Major suckage!

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#9 posted 07-04-2016 01:36 PM

Congrats on getting great deals,I’ve had a PM66 for years they are fantastic saws.

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#10 posted 07-04-2016 02:01 PM

dang, I’ve never even come close to something like that. ya done good son

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#11 posted 07-04-2016 03:12 PM

Incredible score. If you don’t mind delivering to CO, I would buy one of those saws off you.

-- Allen, Colorado

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#12 posted 07-04-2016 03:17 PM

Really nice get on the LN side rabbets.

-- "With every tool obtained, there is another that is needed" DonW ( Kevin )

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#13 posted 07-04-2016 03:31 PM

thanks guys. What initially brought me to this auction was just the LN side rabbet planes and the Veritas large shoulder plane, as I really want to get my hands into hand tools. I snagged 5 wood molding planes for $5 each in the mix too. And my inner wood working voices telling me to build a roubo! Maybe the wood working machinery God is trying to tell me something….
I’ll make a new post about two table saw setups so that other’s down the road can use the ‘search’ function.

-- Yes, my profile picture is of a Carpenter Bee! The name is derived from the Ancient Greek "wood-cutter"

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#14 posted 07-04-2016 05:14 PM

First, you suck.
Now that I got that off my chest …
Sweet deals. I see that the PM is a left tilt. If it works well, I would make that the primary saw and the delta as the dado saw seeing that it is safer to have the saw blade tilt away from the fence.
Now if it were me, I would have worked on getting the joiner and the hand tools since I already have a table saw, like you do.
I never see great auctions like that around my city. :-(

-- I'm not clumsy.. It's just the floor hates me, the tables and chairs are bullies, the wall gets in the way AAANNNDDD table saws BITE my fingers!!!.. - Mike -

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Holbs

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#15 posted 07-04-2016 05:32 PM

Mike…
They had other nifty things at this auction: Onieda 1.5 HP cyclone, shop fox chisel mortiser, Delta lathe, etc. I already have a 100% happy functional 8” jointer but the Grizzly had the spiral head that peaked my interest. After the PM66 fell in my lap, I had $50 left over. Next lot was to be the Veritas shoulder plane. So glad it did not go over $50. They had a bunch of older Bessey parallel clamps that went for $20 a pair. I had to pass on those too :(
I probably see this type of auction once a year, if that. Most wood working related machinery at home hobby local auctions nowadays are the Central Machinery types…and I’ll pass on those.
Still, I would strongly advise any new wood worker to hit the local auctions (the in person ones are the best) to gather their machines & tools. Everything is used and most likely functions, and blows craigslist & eBay prices out of the water.

-- Yes, my profile picture is of a Carpenter Bee! The name is derived from the Ancient Greek "wood-cutter"

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