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Forum topic by indplswoodworking posted 07-02-2016 03:54 PM 497 views 0 times favorited 15 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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indplswoodworking

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07-02-2016 03:54 PM

Just a little background first, I have been woodworking my entire life off and on and have even done it for a profession. I live in INdianapolis Indiana and enjoy having many species of locally grown and harvested woods at my disposal. Now I just do it for a hobby and mainly do furniture , toys , jigs , and custom cabinetry. When I setup my shop about 10 years ago I picked up the Hitatchi C10FL Hybrid Saw from the box store down the road. I have used it for 10 years extensively. Three of the 10 years doing customer furniture commercialy from it and it has worked flawlessly. I would totally buy it again if I had the opportunity. I paid about 400 bucks for it and I would put it up against any Powermatic or Sawstop anyday! NO burning and dead nuts accurate. With better marketing and distribution it could bave been in the 1000 dollar range but luckily it was brought in as an entry leval hobby saw and I saved big bucks.

To the point , over the last several years the saw has increasingly become louder and louder. Now with ear muffs on it is almost deafining. I have not noticed it but it will rattle your teath. No vibration but just loud. My inlaws also purchased one at the same time and there unit was used only a fraction of the time as mine. Checked it out the other day and there is whisper quite as mine was many years ago.

The questions: Has anyone else experienced this problem?

If so please explain your symptoms?

Did you do anything to remidy this and how did it work?

Please provide all the details as I would like to maintain ownership of this highly valuable saw and not be forced to shop for one of the overprices overseas garbage.

Thanks for your Time : Gary in INdianapolis

This is my baby!

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GR8HUNTER

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#1 posted 07-02-2016 04:08 PM

can you narrow down the sound … like where it might be coming from … If you find the source .. you maybe able to fix it yourself …. just a thought

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#2 posted 07-02-2016 04:16 PM

Normally the only part that makes this sound is the bearings. Heavy use wears faster than light. Sounds like its time for a new saw as the bearings are likely pressed in and more or less impossible to change.

M

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#3 posted 07-02-2016 04:28 PM

I have an old Delta table saw that started doing that. Checked everything looking for loose nuts, bolts even replaced the belt. Turned out to be the pulley. After looking around found a good one with a good price at
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indplswoodworking

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#4 posted 07-02-2016 07:17 PM

I have many hours on the saw but it has always been pampered and never abused. I can not isolate the exact location of the nows but could possibly be a bearing or a worn belt. I am really hoping that this message could make ot to someone who had a simmilar issue and could direct me on resoling it. Im sure a bazillion of these are floating around in many peoples garage.

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#5 posted 07-02-2016 07:41 PM

Pampered hours are still hours. It is either the moving parts or stationary parts. You swear it isn’t any moving part, so it must be a stationary part that is loose. Go over the entire saw and snug up every fastener. If that doesn’t help the the sound isn’t in the tool, it must be in your head! LOL

M

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bbasiaga

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#6 posted 07-02-2016 08:56 PM

I’d start by buying a new belt. See if that helps. If not….it’s one of the bearings.

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#7 posted 07-02-2016 11:25 PM

upload a video of the saw running.

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#8 posted 07-02-2016 11:33 PM

That saw has 6203 bearings in the arbor and should be easy to replace. Got no idea what’s in the motor, but they should be just as easy. Given the age of the machine and it’s use, it would be a good idea to go ahead and replace them anyway.

Cheers,
Brad

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#9 posted 07-02-2016 11:46 PM

Have you tried running the saw with no belt on it.

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#10 posted 07-02-2016 11:58 PM



Have you tried running the saw with no belt on it.

- AlaskaGuy

Pro tip right there. That will identify or exclude the motor as the culprit.

Try turning the arbor by hand and see if it spins easy or makes any noise.

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GR8HUNTER

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#11 posted 07-03-2016 12:01 AM

ye


Have you tried running the saw with no belt on it.

- AlaskaGuy


yes good idea run it with no belt see if motor or arbor trunion

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indplswoodworking

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#12 posted 07-05-2016 10:06 PM

I think I found the problem! The belt is in pretty bad shape. I tool the belt off and tested the motor and it is whisper quite. The blade also spins like a top. So im off to get a belt

Question : any experiences with the acculink belts??

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#13 posted 07-05-2016 11:26 PM



Question : any experiences with the acculink belts??

- indplswoodworking

Make sure it is the right width. They make a whine that regular belts don’t but run smoother.

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#14 posted 07-06-2016 12:42 AM

I have links belts on one of my table saws, on a drill press and a wide belt sander. They work well for me.

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#15 posted 07-07-2016 12:19 PM

I have this very exact saw, I too bought new several years ago from Lowe’s. Even though my saw is still running smooth on an everyday basis as it’s used that often, I’ve not experienced a loud noise or vibration yet. Have you tried removing the blade and seeing how it runs without the blade?

Apart from the issues you are having, myself I don’t know much about the SS or the Powermatic but and again myself, I wouldn’t compare this saw to a saw that’s proven to be with high reviews, I think that’s a bit out there. The stock fence is lacking, I had to replace mine with a Delta T100, the blade tilting gears are plastic which need to be cleaned and lubed every so often, other than a few other minor issues it’s just an OK saw and has been long discontinued. I would not buy this saw again.

I can say that the cast iron table and it’s miter slots are very true to the blade.

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