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curto10

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05-01-2010 07:49 AM

I am in the Market to buy a new miter saw for interior finish work, cabinet installation, and crown molding. I am looking for specific opinions on models. What do you think of 10” vs 12”? Have you used the new Festool Kapax? Is it worth the $?

Thanks, Chris


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#1 posted 05-01-2010 08:06 AM

I’ve got a single bevel 12” Dewalt, adequate for my use, but the capabilities of the dual bevel 12” sliding saws have me wishing. Anyhow, the Dewalt’s been a solid performer for me.

-- SW la.

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#2 posted 05-01-2010 08:14 AM

Love the Detla dual bevel 10” with dual laser, but they don’t make it any more (stopped last year. bummer). Maybe a retailer still has one around?

Check out the 10” Hitachi or the 10” Bosch. I hear those are both good value.

Re: Kapex. What an amazing saw. But, is it $1300 amazing? That’s a personal choice. I’ve used a buddies over and over and am constantly impressed with it’s accuracy, sliding mechanism, bevel control and most of all, dust collection (Festool claims 92%. I know it’s good, but maybe not quite 92%. Better than all the rest combined, though.) I told him I’d buy it from him when he’s ready to replace it!

-- "I'll show you my tenon if you show me your mortise!"

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#3 posted 05-01-2010 08:25 AM

I Have the 12” Dewalt double bevel/ Sliding saw and have used it for over 5 yrs now never a problem except that I bought the laser attachment and that has been a waste of money, but the saw itself takes everything I can throw at it even 8” crown

-- Potential is limited only by imagination

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#4 posted 05-01-2010 12:31 PM

I have a 12” Makita sliding miter saw and it is the best saw I ever owned. If you are going to do crown molding, I feel a 12” saw is the way to go. I did a tool review on it if you care to look. Good luck on picking a saw.

God Bless
tom

-- Mc Bridge Cabinets, Iowa

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#5 posted 05-01-2010 02:26 PM

First I’d recomend a 12” (you’ll always be trying to cut something bigger) 2nd if you have the room in your shop, a compound slider (take up a lot more space, but are heavy to move). I’ve been installing trim for over 20 yrs and used many different saws, all are different in some ways and do different cuts better then others. I have 3, all different for diffferent tasks, my tried and true 12” Dewalt single bevel is over 20 yrs old with a ton of miles on it and in all that time I’ve only had to replace the cord and trigger. This saw has been thru it all, rain, thrown and bounced around the truck and has been and still is flawless, use it every day. 2nd saw is a Hitachi 12” duel bevel compound slider with digital readout and laser and is heavy and awkward to handle. I bought it to do the complex cuts for stairs (not that many new homes being built around here these days) now is used mainly in the shop. Has excelent cutting capacity and accuracy, only complaint is the table could be a little bigger, but that would just make it heavier. 3rd is a Rigid 12” slidding compound mounted on a rolling stand. Bought this saw to do sidding and exterior trim, has a 55 degree + cut which is great for exterior trim. It has a belt drive that tends to bind-up and squeal if under heavy load, I wouldn’t use this saw for anything to accurate thou.

So in saying that, any of the brand name 12” slidders in the $500-600 range will do the job just as good for half the price as the Festool, great saw, and yes I’ve tried it, but for double the price all you get is a little better dust collection, they all do a pretty good job when hooked to a shop vac, IMHO.

Oh and one more thing, as in any saw the Blade does all the work.

Doug

-- Doug...

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#6 posted 05-01-2010 04:37 PM

I would get a compound slider. And like Doug said, the 12 inch I think would be best. I like Dewalt.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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#7 posted 05-03-2010 04:52 AM

12” Dewalt double bevel, or better yet (if you can go the cost) a sliding saw

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#8 posted 05-04-2010 09:14 PM

I’ve got a 12” Dewalt….couldn’t be happier with it.

-- Des

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#9 posted 05-04-2010 09:47 PM

Hi Chris,

I have the Makita 10” SCMS model LS1016L. Very accurate, very nice saw. In my opinion, 10” sliding compound miter saws are more stable than their 12” counterparts, less blade deflection in the larger width cuts. I can cut board width of 12” and board hight over 4” (nested crown molding can go over 6” in height). If I need a larger panel cut to length, I use my crosscut sled on my table saw.

I have no experience with the Kapax, but I have heard that it is well worth the money.

Steve

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#10 posted 05-04-2010 10:18 PM

Well I don’t think anyone has mentioned it yet, so I’ll go ahead a talk about it. Jet makes a great sliding compound miter saw. I bought the 10” one a couple months ago and it works great! Cuts everything I need it for and I find mine to be pretty accurate. And I think it’s a steal at $460.

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#11 posted 05-07-2010 05:32 AM

I use a 10” in Delta Compund Miter Saw and like it quite well. However, which saw you select depends on how you plan to use it. I have an article on my blog providing some tips for selecting a miter saw, at http://woodworkingtipsandtools.com/2010/03/tips-on-buying-a-power-miter-saw/. You can also find some miter saw reviews at http://woodworkingtipsandtools.com/2010/03/best-12-inch-miter-saw/. I hope this information is helpful.

-- drbob at http://www.Woodworkingtipsandtools.com

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#12 posted 05-11-2010 07:00 AM

Chris,
I have been using Makita’s 1013 for years because they were better at the time than Dewalts and others. I wanted a new one and looked at the Makita again but, the new model in my opinon is not good, So I did not buy. I just saw for the first time the other day Festools Kapex 120 and imediatedly fell in love with it. When the person showed me his and based on this man’s workmanship and the fantastic work he did, I did not hesitate and went and bought one the very next day. Yes they are expensive $1300.00 , but to me well worth the money. Go put your hands on one I think you will like it also. I can’t wait to use it when I will be installing some crown molding this weekend, I purchased the crown ext. sides also. Let us know what you buy and I will let you know how mine worked after this weekend.

-- Barry, Louisiana

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#13 posted 05-11-2010 07:13 AM

I own a rigid, Bosch and dewalt 12” sliding compound saws they are all good saws and each has it’s own positive sides, The Rigid best price, The Dewalt ease of obtaining parts and the Bosch is my favorite due to it’s front controls

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#14 posted 05-11-2010 04:24 PM

I have a Bosch 10” slider and it works great for me.

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#15 posted 05-11-2010 04:37 PM

I have a single bevel 10” non slider, and keep wishing for capacity, capacity, capacity… The dual bevel is a nice feature, but for sure if I were to do it again, I would buy a 12” slider…

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