LN Saws: Anyone have experience with?

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Forum topic by paratrooper34 posted 04-30-2010 08:33 PM 1888 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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04-30-2010 08:33 PM

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Hi All!

I am going against my normal MO of buying used tools to recondition and put back in service by shopping new saws. I have purchased a couple of smaller used saws (dovetail and tenon saws) and they were junk. I tried sharpening one, but that skill is beyond me right now. I looked at a bunch of used ones and just can’t seem to settle on anything. Well, with the tax refund soon to be in the bank, I am thinking of splurging on some LN saws. I am looking at their dovetail and carcass saws. LN’s rep is formidable and as I am a fellow Mainer, I am drawn to them. I have read/heard upteen reviews about their planes, but nothing on their saws.

So, does anyone have experience with their saws, especially the ones I am looking at?

Also, I want to spring for one of their rabbet block planes with the spurs. Any thoughts on that as well?

Thanks in advance.

-- Mike

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#1 posted 04-30-2010 08:41 PM

At the price point you are looking, there are many good saws.

I would not saw one is better than the other, I think it is a matter of fit. The dovetail saw uses a progressive pitch which is nice. It starts easy, leaves a thin kerf, but it just feels nice in your hand.

You may want to also consider
Bad Axe by Mark Harrel
and Rob Cosman

If you get the chance, go to a LN hand tool event. I honestly don’t think you can make a bad decision. But you may find you like one more than the other.

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#2 posted 04-30-2010 08:52 PM

I have both of them, and they are very well made and comfortable.

In addition to the above, if money is an issue, you might consider the DT saw by Lee Valley/Veritas. I tried it out at a show, and it was every bit as comfortable as the LN – the main difference being that the handle and back spine are made out of some kind of resin/poly instead of wood and blass – still, nice saw.

-- To do is to be

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#3 posted 04-30-2010 09:09 PM

You and I must think alike. I actually just purchased the LN dovetail and the carcass saw about 2 weeks ago. I tried some cheap saws originally, even some very decent moderately priced saws, but I either tossed them or returned them. Once I got the LN saws it was easy to see how they can charge so much for them. They are worth every penny in my opinion. Now I even find myself going into my shop just to use them, in fact I’ve cut through pretty much all my 1x scrap!

And the rabbet block plane I purchased awhile ago because I needed both a low angle block and a shoulder plane so I was hoping to get two birds with one stone. Mine doesn’t have the “knickers” or spurs, but it works great.

Originally I never even looked at LN due to the price, but now that I own a few and know first hand how much easier they make my life, I’m having a hard time looking at anything less. Which is not good for my wallet.

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#4 posted 05-01-2010 08:21 AM

Check out the Rob Cossman. Has a great tooth set. Something like 24/26TPI in the first inch and then 16TPI in the saw body. Really great for starting a cut and then making a nice long stroke cut. Handle is resin rather than wood, but no biggie. I made a hand cut dovetail blanket chest with it. Loved every cut.

-- "I'll show you my tenon if you show me your mortise!"

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#5 posted 05-01-2010 06:55 PM

Thanks for the input everyone. After struggling today with the garbage saws I have to cut some tenons, I am definitely going to get the new LNs. The ones I have don’t cut well at all. They are dull and don’t cut true. I need to experience a good saw and hopefully it will enhance my work. I think my skills are good enough to produce some good work. Now where is my credit card? Thanks again.

-- Mike

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#6 posted 05-01-2010 10:12 PM

Don’t discount sharpening your old saws too. (Not that I’m trying to sway you from purchasing the LN saws ;) )
Your old saws will be decent to practice on when you get the sharpening bug.

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#7 posted 05-02-2010 01:10 PM

Freshpants, I agree 100%. I definitely need to get some skills with sharpening a saw. I practiced on an old tenon saw I have, but I did something wrong; it doesn’t work very well at all. So, I have to figure out how to get better at that.

-- Mike

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#8 posted 05-30-2010 06:43 PM


Hi All! So I bought the LN saws and WOW!!! They are awesome!!!

Altogether, I bought: Rip and Crosscut Panel saws, Rip and Crosscut Carcass saws, 14” Rip Tenon saw, and Dovetail saw. I have cut something with all of them and I am really impressed. I now can cut my own wood in my shop without having to travel to the craft shop on post. I will still use that place for heavy lifting, but slowly I am becoming weaned from needing to go there to make stuff.

If you are looking for a good saw, the LN is everything you think they would be. Plus, they have first rate service. I got a personal email when the order was received and when they shipped. Yup, they cost a little more, but I am not going to have to buy any others for an awful long time. Money well spent!!!

-- Mike

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#9 posted 06-25-2010 11:50 PM

Wow, that must have cost a pretty penny, but you’ll never need to buy another one for life!

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#10 posted 06-26-2010 12:12 AM

While I don’t own one of their saw (YET), I want to put in a major KUDO for Mike Wenzloff at Wenzloff and sons. I emailed them recently to inquire about purchasing a template for making a handle for a saw that I am restoring. Not only did he have what I needed, but he emailed it to me in PDF form at no charge. All of this while he was in the middle of moving his shop to a new space. Heck of a nice guy. I hear that their saws are incredible. One day, I will own one of those half back saw that they make copying the old Disston.

-- Hey, woodworking ain't brain surgery. Just do something and keep trying till you get it. Doc

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#11 posted 06-26-2010 06:12 AM

I watched a Podcast recently in which the guy who does it bought and assembled one of Wenzloff’s saw kits. Now that looks like a lot of fun. Their prices are very reasonable for the kits and had I known about them previously, I may have gone that route for a couple of saws. Wenzloff’s Panel Saw kits are about half price over a new LN. The others; tenon, carcass, and dovetail are not half price, but significantly less than a new one. I am all about building a tool for use and this seems like a great way to get a saw for much less and build it yourself.

Mr Dan, yep they were pricey, but as you stated, I will never have to any others. These are indeed heirloom tools as advertised.

-- Mike

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