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mpounders

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06-30-2016 06:17 PM

I’ve had a Jet 14” band saw with riser blocks for about thirty years. Approximately 7 years ago, I replaced the original tires with Carter urethane tires. They worked well and seemed to fit well. But after all this time, they seem to have loosened up and are slipping off the wheels. I removed them and washed them a bit and they seemed a little tighter going on the wheel. But the bottom one immediately started coming off when I tightened the blade. Should I try gluing them down a bit with rubber cement or spray adhesive? Or should I just order a couple of new tires? We have had some warmer temperatures here in Arkansas and the shop isn’t air conditioned, but I need to get some things cut out! Please advise!

-- Mike P., Arkansas, http://mikepounders.weebly.com


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Redoak49

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#1 posted 06-30-2016 06:55 PM

I put new tires on a 60 year old band saw and did not get much help from Carter. I contacted Bandsaw Tire Warehouse and got terrific help. They have an eBay store. I am very happy with the tires and help I got from them.

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#2 posted 06-30-2016 07:05 PM

It cant hurt if you do try to glue them down but the heat could break the contact cements bond. Rubber cement sounds interesting, I don’t have experience with that. You will probably have to replace them but as an experiment attempt to glue it & update this thread with your experience, i’m curious to find out if glue would work.

-- -Mike, Southern California, YouTube User ( Give & Take )

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#3 posted 06-30-2016 07:09 PM

You can first try using some anti-slip tape under the wheel… which might help. Otherwise, you will probably need to glue ‘em down. Usually, 14” wheels don’t need glue, unless you are using rubber tires… larger wheels pretty much always need glue. I’ve got the regular orange urethane tires on my Delta and have never had them move on me (no glue)... not sure what difference there is between them and the carter ones, other than price and color.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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splintergroup

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#4 posted 06-30-2016 07:29 PM

When I went shopping for tires for my 1962 14” Powermatic, I looked long and hard at Urethane tires.

What I remember was many (all?) 14” Jet’s actually have 13-3/4” wheels and there were a lot of ‘cautions’ from various tire manufacturers about this.
Basically they recommend that if the tires are loose, use weather strip cement just like one would with rubber tires.

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Pimzedd

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#5 posted 06-30-2016 07:53 PM

I have an OLD bandsaw (1948) that I replaced the tires on back in the 80’s with new rubber tires. A couple of years ago while doing some maintenance on the saw, I realized that one of the tires was getting loose. I pulled it off, turned it inside out an sprayed it with Super 77. Put it back on and it has held just fine since .

-- Bill - Mesquite, TX --- "Everything with a power cord eventually winds up in the trash.” John Sarge , timber framer and blacksmith instructor at Tillers International school

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Ocelot

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#6 posted 06-30-2016 08:13 PM

When mine started slipping on a 6-year-old 17-inch Grizzly, I bought new tires. Only one was giving me trouble, so I replaced that one. It was very hard to get the thing on there. The old one was much looser. The trick was to soak the new tire in very hot water, dry it with a hair dryer very quickly before putting it on. Actually, that was just one of the tricks. I forget the others. It was enough trouble, that I didn’t replace the other tire which wasn’t giving trouble.

-Paul

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gfadvm

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#7 posted 07-01-2016 12:10 AM

I glued the tires on my 17” Grizzly using automotive GOOP brand adhesive several years ago as a temporary fix until I could get new tires shipped. The old tires are still on it a working fine!

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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distrbd

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#8 posted 07-01-2016 12:55 AM

I have done the same with my new tires, just a few dabs of caulking/adhesive(that’s what I had available at the time) but I let it cure for 24 hours. tires will stretch otherwise.

-- Ken from Ontario, Canada

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Roger

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#9 posted 07-01-2016 01:46 PM

I’d say you’ve given them their lifetime use. I’d just get new tires

-- Roger from KY. Work/Play/Travel Safe. Keep your dust collector fed. Kentuk55@yahoo.com

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mpounders

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#10 posted 07-06-2016 02:11 PM

I ended up getting new tires. My old ones were from Carter and 7/8” wide. They never fit the 1 inch wide wheels like I though they should, but they worked. The new orange ones fit perfectly in width and went on just fine with a couple of clamps and a bit of muscle. I’m back in business now!

-- Mike P., Arkansas, http://mikepounders.weebly.com

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Nubsnstubs

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#11 posted 07-06-2016 02:50 PM

I’ve had this Duro bandsaw since ‘78. It was old then when I got it. In ‘84, the tires started falling off, but parts were unavailable as Duro no longer existed. I checked with other suppliers, and all said their tires wouldn’t fit. I have no clue as to how I came up with getting new rubber vulcanized to the wheels, but it happened. It’s now 32 years later, the wheels show no visible wear on the rubber nor separation from the aluminum wheels. The saw was used extensively in my cabinet shop with 8 hours a day use at least 2 times a week. Today, it gets occasional use cutting turning blanks. ........... Jerry (in Tucson)

-- Jerry (in Tucson)

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GR8HUNTER

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#12 posted 07-06-2016 03:20 PM



I put new tires on a 60 year old band saw and did not get much help from Carter. I contacted Bandsaw Tire Warehouse and got terrific help. They have an eBay store. I am very happy with the tires and help I got from them.

- Redoak49

AGREED …........ that is where I got my tires …...... for my 12” craftsman …....... and they where VERY hard to get on …...... they even supplied a tool to put them on

-- Tony Reinholds,Pa. REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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DrDirt

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#13 posted 07-06-2016 03:40 PM

I have a Delta 14 inch with Riser – I got carter tires and they were too narrow (7/8 inch) – the wheels on my delta are a full inch wide. so tracking was weird.
Same problem Mike (mpounders) had – - same solution too.

But I also notice that the tires are fatter in the middle – - as if to put a crown on flat wheels. My wheels have a crown machined in – so they would slip.

I got these from Amazon – - saw the install video on Mark (The Wood WHisperer).
The tires are ‘flat bands’ ~1/8 thick and a full inch wide, made by sulphur grove.

-- 'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' ~George Carlin

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mpounders

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#14 posted 07-18-2016 02:50 PM

These look like the same thing I bought from Rockler. They fit and work well.

-- Mike P., Arkansas, http://mikepounders.weebly.com

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