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Forum topic by woodtablet posted 06-23-2016 09:11 PM 672 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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woodtablet

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06-23-2016 09:11 PM

I am in the market for a RAS, so I went to visit a guy’s house and see his, but it burnt through the wood and was really really loud compared to my tablesaw or chopsaw.

Is that noise level normal ? It is probably like 120Dbs or louder.

I am going to bring my own fresher saw blade tonight, but I am worried about the sound level.

Note: I have a 3HP cabinet saw.

Thanks,
Woodtablet


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ohtimberwolf

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#1 posted 06-23-2016 09:36 PM

My radial arm saw is louder than my table saw but I have muffs that I use on any loud tool when using it a lot. I need all of what little hearing the Navy big guns left me with! If you like the saw just use some muffs. larry

-- Just a barn cat, now gone to cat heaven.

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Clarkie

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#2 posted 06-23-2016 09:43 PM

The radial shouldn’t be any louder than a regular tablesaw, the bearings may be worn down, a good RA should be smooth and no burn out on the wood. I’d be leary of it, maybe wait for a good ole DeWalt saw.

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Ocelot

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#3 posted 06-23-2016 09:44 PM

The blade makes a huge difference. When I changed the bearings in my RAS, I first test-ran it without a blade and was surprised at how quiet it was. With blade installed, it was back to the usual noise level. I suspect that the table diverts a lot of blade noise from the table saw while the RAS blade is up in the air where the sound can get to your ear better. I wear muffs for both saws.

I don’t think there is any reason you can’t test-run it without a blade to see how much noise is from the motor itself.

Burning the wood might be caused by a number of possible misalignments which possibly can be fixed. If there is any “heel” to the saw, the saw is not moving in the plane of the blade. That will cause burning. Also, if the table or fence are not flat, the board will shift and pinch the blade as you cut, also causing burning. Finally, any dull blade will burn more than a sharp blade.

-Paul

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greenacres2

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#4 posted 06-23-2016 09:45 PM

I’ve got a 1958 Dewalt GWI (1.5 HP, real—not peak or max developed). With the proper blade (flat or triple chip grind), hook of up to about +10 degrees, and trued up—it is very quiet and cuts quite nicely without trying to climb.

What you describe sounds like a dirty or dull blade, not cutting on the same track across the stroke. I’d start with a good set-up before putting a new blade on it. And, when you do try another blade get at least 40-60 teeth and avoid an ATB grind (for your own safety). Combination blades won’t do you any favors either, nor will too much hook.

Used to have a Craftsman that screamed, sold it and replaced with a SCMS. Now kind of reverting back to old school RAS, and loving it. The “Mr. Sawdust” book (Wally Kunkel) is a great reference on both set-up and technique—though it focuses on the Dewalt Marque.

earl

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Lazyman

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#5 posted 06-23-2016 11:23 PM

At that level, I would be worried that the bearings are bad. How did is sound as the blade spins down. On my table saw, I could tell the bearings were going because it sounded like gravel as the blade spun down.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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unbob

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#6 posted 06-24-2016 03:51 AM

I have one of the old small DeWalts, I think it tends to be louder because the blade is above the table.

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Jose

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#7 posted 06-24-2016 03:56 AM

Any saw that is belt driven is quieter than one that is direct driven like miter saw or RAS.

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woodtablet

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#8 posted 06-24-2016 08:00 AM

Thanks Guys!
I ll try to run his saw without a blade to see how loud it is, and how loud it is when it spins down.

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ohtimberwolf

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#9 posted 06-24-2016 11:07 AM

As others have said, the blade makes a lot of difference on my saw. I hope it works out for you as they have their uses. larry

-- Just a barn cat, now gone to cat heaven.

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Fred Hargis

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#10 posted 06-24-2016 11:47 AM

I suspect that was Craftsman saw (?). If so, best walk on by and wait for a Dewalt or a Delta/Rockwell turret arm. Some of the Craftsman saws can be real screamers; add to that the alignment problems you might have and it’s worth passing it up. That said, the blades do make a big difference and a good quality blade goes a long way toward being more quiet.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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Sloopmk

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#11 posted 06-24-2016 12:30 PM

Agree with others on going with an old DeWalt or old Delta/Rockwell. Check out the DeWalt RAS forum and you’ll catch the bug like me and so many others. There you will find tons of great info on what to look for. Good luck.

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greenacres2

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#12 posted 06-24-2016 05:47 PM



Agree with others on going with an old DeWalt or old Delta/Rockwell. Check out the DeWalt RAS forum and you ll catch the bug like me and so many others. There you will find tons of great info on what to look for. Good luck.

- Sloopmk

Amen. And…somehow Dewalt MBF’s and GWI’s seem to come up for sale cheap (or free) on the West Coast. Like every other tool, the best deals are very far away!!
earl

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Richard

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#13 posted 06-24-2016 06:22 PM


Agree with others on going with an old DeWalt or old Delta/Rockwell. Check out the DeWalt RAS forum and you ll catch the bug like me and so many others. There you will find tons of great info on what to look for. Good luck.

- Sloopmk
I am in the SF Bay Area ( San Jose ) and would love to find one of these DeWalt or old Delta/Rockwell’s in good shape but so far they have been pretty much Junk. I will keep looking.

Amen. And…somehow Dewalt MBF s and GWI s seem to come up for sale cheap (or free) on the West Coast. Like every other tool, the best deals are very far away!!
earl

- greenacres2


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