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treesner

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06-23-2016 08:50 PM

hey guys looking to get this milwuakee router for 300 that comes with fixed base and plunge

https://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-5616-24-Max-Horsepower-Multi-Base-BodyGrip/dp/B000QV1CXW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466714887&sr=8-1&keywords=milwaukee+router

it seems pretty similar to the bosch but better adjustment and seems a little better built

curious if I can just use the fixed base bolted to the table and use the plunge for every other hand held purpose? Or is there handheld uses for the fixed base that the plunge locked out can’t do?


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#1 posted 06-23-2016 09:26 PM

I have the MW5625 for table use, and the 5615 primarily for hand use….both are very well built, very stout running routers for the motor ratings. Bigger is usually better in a table, but I’d think that the 5616 would be plenty capable of all but round the clock raised panels.

It’s been a while since I priced routers, but that doesn’t seem like much of a deal to me. Have you checked around for best pricing? CPO Outlets, etc.

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#2 posted 06-23-2016 09:30 PM

After a quick look at your link and an online search, looks like you could get the same Milwaukee kit for $235 to $260 with free shipping and no sales tax so you might want to do some pricing. (even the BORG is at $250 shipped, but tax would apply).

Plunge versus fixed base for hand-held—for me a plunge base does anything a fixed base can, plus plunge. Fixed base is, well, fixed.

Can’t tell from the Milwaukee manual which base is recommended for table use—most makers suggest the plunge base in the table, and removing the springs so that it functions sort of like a lift. That is where the Bosch 1617 EVSPK gets a plus mark for me—the fixed base can be table mounted an adjusted from above (though one has to reach below to release a lock). For me, I keep the fixed base in my table, and then remove the motor to use hand-held in the plunge base. Given that the Bosch can be had for about $220 brand new, maybe a little less as a refurb if you can find one—it would be hard to cross the 1617 off my shopping list.

Confession—I’m prejudiced. My first 1617 was bought used for $85 about 6 years ago, table mounted most of the time. Second was a refurb (about 3 years ago, probably about $160), usually in a plunge base. Collets self-release very nicely (compared to 2 Hitachi’s that seemed to get a death grip on bits). The fixed base for the 1617 uses 4 screws for the Bosch sub-base, but is also tapped in the same 3 hole pattern that the PC 690 & PC 890 use—so pre-drilled aftermarket stuff fits easily (I think Milwaukee 5616 may be the that way as well??)

Good luck!!
earl

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treesner

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#3 posted 06-23-2016 09:50 PM



After a quick look at your link and an online search, looks like you could get the same Milwaukee kit for $235 to $260 with free shipping and no sales tax so you might want to do some pricing. (even the BORG is at $250 shipped, but tax would apply).

Plunge versus fixed base for hand-held—for me a plunge base does anything a fixed base can, plus plunge. Fixed base is, well, fixed.

Can t tell from the Milwaukee manual which base is recommended for table use—most makers suggest the plunge base in the table, and removing the springs so that it functions sort of like a lift. That is where the Bosch 1617 EVSPK gets a plus mark for me—the fixed base can be table mounted an adjusted from above (though one has to reach below to release a lock). For me, I keep the fixed base in my table, and then remove the motor to use hand-held in the plunge base. Given that the Bosch can be had for about $220 brand new, maybe a little less as a refurb if you can find one—it would be hard to cross the 1617 off my shopping list.

Confession—I m prejudiced. My first 1617 was bought used for $85 about 6 years ago, table mounted most of the time. Second was a refurb (about 3 years ago, probably about $160), usually in a plunge base. Collets self-release very nicely (compared to 2 Hitachi s that seemed to get a death grip on bits). The fixed base for the 1617 uses 4 screws for the Bosch sub-base, but is also tapped in the same 3 hole pattern that the PC 690 & PC 890 use—so pre-drilled aftermarket stuff fits easily (I think Milwaukee 5616 may be the that way as well??)

Good luck!!
earl

- greenacres2

Looking into it more i think the fixed base model will work fine in the table, it has t handle adjustment from the top so you just drill a hole in the table you make after unlatching underneath.

Good to hear your plunge base works for all handheld

thanks for the heads up not he price, amazon is usually on top of the lowest price but seeing it is much cheaper in a google shopping price 235
http://www.toolup.com/Milwaukee-5616-24-2-1-4-Max-HP-EVS-Multi-Base-Router-Kit?CAWELAID=120204890000019613&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=31461036851&CATCI=pla-186296903771&catargetid=120204890000446240&cadevice=c&gclid=CjwKEAjwka67BRCk6a7_h_7Pui8SJABcMkWRXChFpl7aMgML9lWpaDVeK3dBZPkUZ28putQ5B9GyrBoCzhnw_wcB

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treesner

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#4 posted 06-23-2016 09:51 PM



I have the MW5625 for table use, and the 5615 primarily for hand use….both are very well built, very stout running routers for the motor ratings. Bigger is usually better in a table, but I d think that the 5616 would be plenty capable of all but round the clock raised panels.

It s been a while since I priced routers, but that doesn t seem like much of a deal to me. Have you checked around for best pricing? CPO Outlets, etc.

- knotscott

you’re right the price was 235 elsewhere which is comparable to the bosh and i think the milwuakee is a better router with the height adjustment feature

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#5 posted 06-23-2016 09:54 PM

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#6 posted 06-24-2016 12:02 PM

Man, if that price is comparable to the Bosch and it’s built a little better, I’d jump on that. I have the 1617 EVS, purchased on sale new 4 years ago for $190, and I’d consider it a bargain at $40-50 more. As stated above, fixed base stays in my table, plunge is used for handheld routing (I think it’s more comfortable anyway).

One small caveat: check availability of adapters and accessories, especially if you need collars, guides, etc to use dovetail jigs or other third party tools.

If all that’s a go, you should be happy with this. Worked in construction for 4 years, using Milwaukee power tools 5-6 days a week pretty extensively, and not one single problem. Big fan of their equipment.

P.S.
If you get it, let us know what you think after some time using it!

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Loren

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#7 posted 06-24-2016 02:40 PM

The Milwaukees are very good. I burnt mine out,
but it’s my favorite handheld router and my favorite
table router. There’s a shaft in the fixed base so
you can raise or lower it in the table through a hole in
the base.

I’ve never used a Milwaukee plunge base. As mentioned,
my motor is smoked.

You might consider that Black and Decker has a patent on
the through-the-column dust extraction on plunge routers,
which works very well for mortising.

I recommend the bodygrip highly for fixed base use…
for plunging it looks like a good plunger but plungers
are plungers, a little tricky to handle.

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knotscott

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#8 posted 06-24-2016 02:41 PM



some goodfeedback on the milwaukee 5615 here http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f12/taking-plunge-feed-back-needed-39160/

- treesner

True confession – I initially bought my first Milwaukee router because it had the same color scheme as my older Craftsman router. Not that I cared about the color, but it kept the CFO from asking questions! ;-) I bought the 2nd one because I was so impressed with the first one.

BTW – The Milwaukee’s accept standard 1-3/16” PC style bushing accessories, so no adapters are needed.

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#9 posted 06-24-2016 03:13 PM

Milwaukee makes great routers that are designed for continuous use.

M

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Fred Hargis

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#10 posted 06-24-2016 03:49 PM

The fixed base is made for table use, it has a hole for the above-the-table features. You will do very well with it. Make sure you stay with the 5616, the 5615 doesn’t have variable speed and a little less power. The plunge base will do everything the fixed will in hand held use, so go ahead…it will work out fine.

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xeddog

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#11 posted 06-24-2016 04:13 PM

I have the Bosch 1617 and the Milwaukee 5616. I wound up putting my Bosch in a table and use the Milwaukee for handheld uses. I did use both routers handheld before I put the Bosch in the table, and the decision to put the Bosch in the table was based on only one factor. I liked the grip of the Milwaukee better. Other than that, both routers seem to be very solid performers with good power and are very smooth running. I do think that the Milwaukee is perhaps a tad quieter.

Now the price. I have that same Milwaukee kit with the HUGE case. I think I got mine on sale for $200 (that’s TWO hundred) at one of the big box stores. If you can’t wait for a sale, I don’t think you should have too much trouble finding the kit for around $225, but I have not looked at router prices for a couple of years.

Wayne

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#12 posted 06-24-2016 07:18 PM

I have the Milwaukee 5615 combo kit (weaker brother to the 5616), and love it, although today I’d get the 5616 instead for the EVS and greater power.

I use the fixed base for handheld whenever I don’t need to plunge. It is a bit lighter and has a lower center of gravity so is easier to handle, but the best part is the hand grip around the base, which gives great control. While you can adjust bit height from above the table with the fixed base mounted, you still need to reach under to release and close the motor clamp lever when adjusting.

I’ve never used the Bosch 1617, but have the Craftsman knockoff of it. One thing I don’t like about that is for height adjustment with the fixed base, you have to “shift gears” by matching one of three notches in the motor housing to the screw lift, and there’s quite a bit of lash in the adjustment screw, compared to the slop-free height adjustment screw of the Milwaukee.

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