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Forum topic by Marn64 posted 06-19-2016 07:20 PM 794 views 0 times favorited 29 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Marn64

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06-19-2016 07:20 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question plane

Hey, so I got this stanley type 18 5C recently, and I’ve been dissassembling it, but the 2 little bolts for the frog are dead rusted in and partially balded, I have been getting pretty desperate and I have considered a blowtorch. Anyone got any alternatives or could offer me any other advice?
UPDATE
Hey, pb blaster worked pretty well, I got one of the frog bolts out, but the other one is still stuck, as is the brass depth adjuster. where should I go from here?
as for the bolt I did get out, its heavily corroded and not worth keeping, I’ll just de-rust it and archive it so I still technically have the complete plane.
UPDATE 2
I’m done with this thing, I’m just gonna get a screw extractor and remove it. The bolt is is so damaged that its not worth saving. I haven’t done a screw extraction before (on a plane at least) so can anyone give me some tips? I don’t want to accidentally punch through the sole or damage the frog. After this, my last battle is getting the depth adjuster wheel out, as it is stuck.

-- Benjamin, Milwaukee


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#1 posted 06-19-2016 07:28 PM

Try Kroil penetrating oil

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#2 posted 06-19-2016 08:03 PM

PB Blaster is another brand. Let sit for several hours after application. A hammer type impact driver can work wonders for this (after the oil soak). If that won’t do it, then apply heat with a torch and try the impact driver again.

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#3 posted 06-19-2016 08:10 PM

Don’t know what you mean by “balded”—do you mean the slots are f**ed up?

+1 to kdc68’s suggestion – Kroil has no equal

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#4 posted 06-19-2016 08:23 PM



Don t know what you mean by “balded”—do you mean the slots are f**ed up?

+1 to kdc68 s suggestion – Kroil has no equal

- Johnny7


Yes, that is what I meant, the slots are in bad shape. I couldn’t think of a better term other than that, but in hindsight, f’ked up would have worked even better.

-- Benjamin, Milwaukee

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#5 posted 06-19-2016 09:44 PM

with the slots in tough shape, it’s even more important to let the penetrating oil do its thing—don’t rush it.

one extracted you can use a needle file to restore the slots

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#6 posted 06-19-2016 10:04 PM



with the slots in tough shape, it s even more important to let the penetrating oil do its thing—don t rush it.

one extracted you can use a needle file to restore the slots

- Johnny7


cool, I’ll let it sit overnight and get an impact driver and a torch if needed tomorrow, do you know a good cheap impact driver?

-- Benjamin, Milwaukee

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#7 posted 06-19-2016 10:26 PM

I’ll second the motion for using PB Blaster. That stuff rocks !

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#8 posted 06-19-2016 10:26 PM

PB blaster it and beat the bolt heads with screwdriver and torch it is one way. I’d try tapping the heads with a screw driver and hammer before using an impact.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#9 posted 06-20-2016 12:14 AM



PB blaster it and beat the bolt heads with screwdriver and torch it is one way. I d try tapping the heads with a screw driver and hammer before using an impact.

- TheFridge


I’m assuming I’d use a propane torch, not acetylene?

-- Benjamin, Milwaukee

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#10 posted 06-20-2016 12:44 AM

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#11 posted 06-20-2016 12:47 AM



If you ve got a torch, use it!

http://www.timetestedtools.net/2016/01/27/saving-a-stanley-type-2-risk-equals-reward/

- Don W


Wow Don, as always stellar work on that type 2.

-- Benjamin, Milwaukee

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#12 posted 06-20-2016 01:01 AM

I use whatever’s at hand. I try to avoid heating the casting as much as possible.

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#13 posted 06-20-2016 04:00 AM

are you going to de-rust it? of so toss it in with the frog on and the de-ruster will work it’s way in and probably loosen them.

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#14 posted 06-20-2016 04:25 AM

Definitely wouldn’t hurt if you are using Evaporust. Citric acid I would be cautious. I think it would need to be neutralized if it gets into the crevices.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#15 posted 06-20-2016 05:55 PM



are you going to de-rust it? of so toss it in with the frog on and the de-ruster will work it s way in and probably loosen them.

- daddywoofdawg


I’ve been trying de rusting, no results :(

-- Benjamin, Milwaukee

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