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Dutchy

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06-19-2016 03:55 PM

Topic tags/keywords: t j t and j

Today I got a mail from T&J about the “new” possibility to view their image gallery ”for only” $ 30 a year. I don’t get really happy from this kind of customer help.

There are increasingly more model makers here . I invite you to do some ideas how to start a gallery on LJ (or maybe elsewhere) of wooden models like T&J and/or others. Keep in mind that the models should be easy to find.

When you have ideas please don’t hesitate and write about it in this forum. Everyone should be able to participate in the discussion and therefore I ask you please don’t send me PM’s about this subject.

Thanks for cooperation.

-- My englisch is bad but how is your dutch?


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stefang

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#1 posted 06-19-2016 04:08 PM

It shouldn’t be necessary to start a special model gallery Jan. If you just search for ‘model projects’ in LJ search box you will get a list of all the projects and you can just choose whichever one you want to look at. You can also search for ‘model blogs’ and get a similar list to see build details. Another way to do this is to just start a forum topic that folks can post to, similar to the ‘Chevelat’ topic started by Shipwright, although I prefer the project and blog search approach better. This is just my thoughts on the subject. I’m not opposed to other suggestions, but I doubt LJ will allow a special model gallery.

-- Mike, an American living in Norway.

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bruce317

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#2 posted 06-19-2016 04:23 PM

Like you I’m not paying $30.00! I would think T&J would help for free, to sell more plans. I like their plans. Don’t like paying for information. If I didn’t get email, like you did. I would not have commented about the Image Gallery.

-- Bruce - Indiana

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kiefer

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#3 posted 06-19-2016 05:26 PM

What Mike said above but I have trouble to get the search button to work most of the time .

Klaus

-- Kiefer https://www.youtube.com/user/woodkiefer1/videos

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Dutchy

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#4 posted 06-19-2016 06:03 PM

Mike and Klaus in fact I agree with you that the LJ projects page is a good platform to show what we woodworkers have made. The problem, as Klaus said, is the way the LJ search “machine” is working.

Bruce I hope more T&J builders will come with ideas in order to save $ 30

-- My englisch is bad but how is your dutch?

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jim65

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#5 posted 06-19-2016 07:36 PM

Hello Dutchy,
I could make a site pretty easily to load pictures, focused on toys. Hosting is not an issue and a simple format would not be that much work. keep it focused on wooden toys with a blog section to post building tips. If you are interested, let me know. I would not go to the effort alone for the 5 cars I have made but f there was interest we could give it a shot. cools idea, could be fun.

-- Jim, Marostica Italy

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#6 posted 06-19-2016 07:56 PM

I agree…. I have been on T&Js for quite some time …........... trying to get them to make an easier way to post pictures …..... I even talked on the phone with some guys that live near there …..... and they said Karl just don’t want to spend any more money …..... but MY thought is …... have to spend it to make it …. I WILL NOT BE PAYING 30 DOLLARS FOR PICTURES!!!!!!!!! LMAO

-- Tony Reinholds,Pa. REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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Dutchy

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#7 posted 06-19-2016 08:43 PM



Hello Dutchy,
I could make a site pretty easily to load pictures, focused on toys. Hosting is not an issue and a simple format would not be that much work. keep it focused on wooden toys with a blog section to post building tips. If you are interested, let me know. I would not go to the effort alone for the 5 cars I have made but f there was interest we could give it a shot. cools idea, could be fun.

- jim65

That is a nice gesture Jim. Yes I’m interested but before asking you to do this I’m curious if more people appreciate this idea. There has to be enough input to let it work.

Thanks again for your offer!

-- My englisch is bad but how is your dutch?

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Dutchy

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#8 posted 06-19-2016 08:49 PM



I agree…. I have been on T&Js for quite some time …........... trying to get them to make an easier way to post pictures …..... I even talked on the phone with some guys that live near there …..... and they said Karl just don t want to spend any more money …..... but MY thought is …... have to spend it to make it …. I WILL NOT BE PAYING 30 DOLLARS FOR PICTURES!!!!!!!!! LMAO

- GR8HUNTER

Thanks for joining.

Can you as a great hunter ask your T&J friends to visit this forum for letting know their opinions?

-- My englisch is bad but how is your dutch?

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GR8HUNTER

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#9 posted 06-19-2016 09:32 PM

I did invite james to come here as he is also a great woodworker ….. as I was invited here by bruce HTL

NOT QUITE SURE HOW TO INVITE HERE ….. being on another site and all

I really like it here

-- Tony Reinholds,Pa. REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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bruce317

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#10 posted 06-19-2016 09:48 PM


Hello Dutchy,
I could make a site pretty easily to load pictures, focused on toys. Hosting is not an issue and a simple format would not be that much work. keep it focused on wooden toys with a blog section to post building tips. If you are interested, let me know. I would not go to the effort alone for the 5 cars I have made but f there was interest we could give it a shot. cools idea, could be fun.

- jim65

That is a nice gesture Jim. Yes I m interested but before asking you to do this I m curious if more people appreciate this idea. There has to be enough input to let it work.

Thanks again for your offer!

- Dutchy


Yes thank you both. Just tell me where to go. Err, lets make that what site to go too.

-- Bruce - Indiana

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Pjonesy

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#11 posted 06-19-2016 11:15 PM

Hello Dutchy,
I got that email as well but like a lot of people I wont be spending $30.00 per year just to see their high res photos.
T&J did have a free sample of these photos for us to look at a little while ago. I was not that impressed.
One of the problems I have is that their models don’t always follow the plans anyway like with the hydraulic crane.
With the crane you can clearly see in the photo in the catalog that they have moved the crane cab forward so the crane will revolve 360 degrees. This is the same problem you had and told them about.
I think Jim65 has a good idea and we could all put our own high res photos up for free for people to look at.

-- Peter New Zealand

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LittleBlackDuck

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#12 posted 06-20-2016 01:10 AM

I also received the letter, however, after having a look at the sample they (T&J) provided, $30 is not too vicious when you consider the money we spend on tools, timber, plans and incidentals. If you put a $ value on your time and fully costed the creation of a toy, a $30 overhead (even per toy) would not be out of place. Now that is purely on the basis that $30 is pretty much petty cash now days (even for pensioners).

Having said that, a $30 per annum fee to see what you should have done because the plans were confusing, incorrect or misleading sucks.

As I have mentioned in the past, I consider myself an experienced novice woodworker and do not poses years of crafting knowledge and experience. I love to see others’ builds, however, while I’ve always found myself in awe of their models, I am none the wiser in how some parts fit together (as were depicted by some of the close ups in the sample pictures from the T&J offering).

I haven’t built as many models as most but I have purchased probably more plans than I could complete in this lifetime (even if I lived for another 300+ years). I have however, imported them all into SU (working on the last 2) and often sit there for hours pondering how things fit together and wonder how some of you guys manage to figure it out without such a tool, and not making countless unnecessary mistakes.

It is because of blogs like Dutchy and htl that I was initially attracted to and now an avid follower of Lumberjocks, as they go to a great effort to detail with pictures and explain some of their intricate manouvers.

Unfortunatelly all the great ideas are spread over 100’s of blogs that make finding difficult.
If we could dedicate a thread (or one helluva heavy rope) to provide hints and tips (like eg. Pjonesey Hydraulc crane's jacks ) that could be linked into one area would be great.

I would rather contribute my $30 in the assistance in developing that (or even $30 (or lira) worth of beer to the developer)).

Lead on the revolution… Kinda takes me back 40 years when I burnt my first bra…

-- There's two ways to do things... My way or the right way.. LBD

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Dee1

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#13 posted 06-20-2016 01:43 AM

I have been busy today and am coming into this discussion late. I have bought over the years many many sets of plans from T& J and I did not get a letter from them about the Image Gallery however I did see it on there web site.
I am in complete agreement about paying $30 a year for something that will help with the confusing parts of the plans? How about making the plans better?
I thought at one time I was a fair model builder but recently I had the chance to visit a website in Australia and the gentleman was making wagons, now I feel I am just a hacker and should go back to school?
But long story short I will follow you guys anywhere you want. where will the website be?
Dee1

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Dutchy

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#14 posted 06-20-2016 06:43 AM



I did invite james to come here as he is also a great woodworker ….. as I was invited here by bruce HTL

NOT QUITE SURE HOW TO INVITE HERE ….. being on another site and all

I really like it here

- GR8HUNTER

Thanks Hunter.
I.m thinking asking T&J forum people to visit this LJ forum. How more people asking there to do this how better it is.

-- My englisch is bad but how is your dutch?

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Dutchy

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#15 posted 06-20-2016 06:55 AM

Peter, Alex and Dee I’m glad with your responce. It makes clear how we all think about paying for looking to some pictures. Given the offer of Jim I think that in the future there can be the possibility to view model pictures for free and which are easy to find. But before asking Jim to do this and help us let we first make clear what opportunities are necessary and possible.

Thanks again all for your input!

-- My englisch is bad but how is your dutch?

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