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clin

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06-14-2016 02:58 AM

I just bought a DeWalt DW735 planer and I’m trying to figure out the best, first step at collecting chips. I do not have a DC, just a shop vac and Dust Deputy. Some people seems to make this work.

But, I saw a YouTube video where a guy had a 4” hose coming straight off the planer into a filter bag. The DW735 planer has a strong blower built in. So I can see why this works. Unfortunately, commenters already asked the guy about the bag, and he didn’t respond.

Looking around a bit, I don’t see that bags like this exist. It would need a 4” port and of course a zipper or similar for emptying it.

Anyone know of such an animal or some way to adapt a common filter bag?

-- Clin


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#1 posted 06-14-2016 03:26 AM

Pennstateind.com makes such a bag in 0.5 micron.

Limit the width of what you plane and the bag trick will work ok.

M

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#2 posted 06-14-2016 04:23 AM

MadMark,

That’s exactly what I was talking about.

What does board width have to do with this? Is it just that a wider board means more chips and potential to clog?

-- Clin

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Lazyman

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#3 posted 06-14-2016 04:28 AM

I use my Dewalt planer with a shop vac and a home made dust separator and it works fine as long as I don’t forget to turn the vac on. The dust deputy should work even better. I had to use a rubber adapter I got in the plumbing dept. at Home Depot to attach the shop vac hose to the planer.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#4 posted 06-14-2016 06:04 AM

I’m using a Rockler 5 micron dust bag with 4” opening and a 10 foot/4” hose. Works just fine, even on wide boards. But I have been taking shallow cuts, so no clogs so far.

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#5 posted 06-14-2016 12:13 PM

I don’t have a DeWalt planer, but the newer Ridgid. It also has a hefty blower in it for chip removal and I simply use my shop vac and a dust deputy too with no issues. I’ve run 12” wide boards with no issues. Yes it does create a lot of chips and you’ll have to empty the bucket but it works with no issues. In my opinion, the only think you’ll get out of the bag is that it will hold more chips than the dust deputy bucket. Unless I’m severely underestimating the force of the DeWalt blower….

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#6 posted 06-14-2016 12:18 PM

Larger board width and especially species and cut depth can make longer, more clog prone chips. I’ve seen this setup work for others before and while it will work, connecting a dust collector will greatly reduce the chance of a clog and keep the air cleaner if equipped with a good filter. I’ve seen a craftsman planer that also has a built in blower and comes with a bag to fit over the top of a garbage can, however, I can make no testament as to how well it works, only that it exists.

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#7 posted 06-14-2016 01:09 PM

I’ve had a DeWalt 735 planer for about 10 years. My shop is small, so my planning is always done outside. When I bought the planer, I also bought the DeWalt 7353 hose and barrel cover accessory, which no longer seems to be available (I can’t understand why). The fabric cover has a draw string that allows easy attachment to any barrel that has a lip on the top edge. The draw string is much like those that can be found in the bottom of Winter Jackets. The spring tension lock is the same too. I use a 55 gallon plastic barrel that I cut one end out of. It does a great job of collecting the chips, as long as the draw string keeps the cover on the barrel DAMHIKT.

There is a similar designed accessory by Black and Decker that may fit the need. It’s a Black and Decker BV-006. I haven’t tried this, but it may work for you. It certainly looks the same as the DeWalt 7353 accessory in the available pictures of it. The DeWalt 7353 hose end that attaches to the 735 has a small hole in one side and an L shaped groove in the opposite side that allows the hose end to be snap locked into place on the exhaust port of the 735. This Black and Decker version may not have this, but it would be a simple modification if the hose diameter fits the exhaust port on the 735. If anyone tries this, please post your success or failure here for others who may be considering this.

Friends who have tried to use a shop vac to collect chips from their 735 planers have all reported disasters
with this idea. The volume of chips collected can fill a 5-7 gallon shop vac to over full in one pass of a long board. It’s best to let the internal blower of the 735 blow the chips into a much larger container, or into a hose connected to a very large shop dust collector. Any dust collector with a hose smaller than 3” diameter is not going to be capable of handling the velocity of the 735 exhaust port either.

Charley

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#8 posted 06-14-2016 01:21 PM

I have a Dewalt planer (734) and find that my shop vac and Dust Deputy do a really good job. Not a big deal to empty the bucket for the amount I plane at a time. I don’t take off much with each pass so I haven’t had any trouble with clogs.

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#9 posted 06-14-2016 02:34 PM



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Friends who have tried to use a shop vac to collect chips from their 735 planers have all reported disasters with this idea. The volume of chips collected can fill a 5-7 gallon shop vac to over full in one pass of a long board. It s best to let the internal blower of the 735 blow the chips into a much larger container, or into a hose connected to a very large shop dust collector. Any dust collector with a hose smaller than 3” diameter is not going to be capable of handling the velocity of the 735 exhaust port either.

Charley

- CharleyL

As long as you have a dust separator between the vac and the planer it works very well. If you are planing several board feet, you’ll want a bigger separator bin or be prepared to empty it frequently, but my 5 gallon bucket on the separator can handle quite a bit before I have to empty it. I have a Craftsman 5 HP/ 12 gallon vac and it handles the exhaust well enough but I’ve also used my smaller 1.5 HP/5 gallon Shopvac and it worked well enough too because the separator catches 99% of the chips. I use a Clean Stream filter on my vacs which I think helps.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#10 posted 06-14-2016 03:51 PM

Sounds like there are several ways to go. I’ve yet to even turn this planer on. But wanted something to deal with this to start. There’s obviously no reason not to try my shop vac setup and see how it goes. I will of course have to rig up the hose connection.

And if nothing else, I can still just put a 4” hose on it and run this into a trash can outside to trap the bulk of the chips and avoid blowing them all over my driveway.

As with many, this may not be something I do very often, so I don’t mind working outside. Though if this is as loud as everyone says, I’ll have to be mindful of me neighbors. But if it works out to be the equivalent of running a wood chipper once a moi month on a Saturday afternoon, I see no problem.

-- Clin

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#11 posted 06-14-2016 10:04 PM

DeWalt used to offer an attachment like you are describing. I do not think it is still available. I had one. It worked well but fine dust would be thrown into the air. It collected chips only. I gave mine to a friend when I installed a dust collection system. He is still using it with his garage door open to get rid of the fine dust.

-- "You may have your PHD but I have my GED and my DD 214"

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#12 posted 06-14-2016 10:11 PM

I have one of the newer Ridgid planers with the chip extractor. I just have the bag off of my electric yard blower/vac duct taped to the outlet. Works surprisingly well. I still get some chips out the front of the planer, but it’s pretty limited. A legit filter bag, would no doubt be even better, and help with the dust. I still wear a dust mask (and hearing protection! So LOUD!) while using most of my power tools due to no dust collector yet. Just an old shop vac I found that a neighbor had thrown away and i resurrected with a little new wiring.

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clin

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#13 posted 06-14-2016 10:25 PM

I picked up a 4” to 2 1/2” adapter locally and will be set to at least try the shop vac with Dust Deputy. I also bought some 4” flex hose. If nothing else I can place that in a trash can and fit a loose lid on it. But that I would do outside.

I’m still going to keep an eye on that Penn State bag MadMark posted. It might be a very good option. But, I need to do something now and not wait on ordering something. I was a bit disappointed that my local supplier (Wood Workers Supply) doesn’t carry bags like that. They sell some portable/wall mount DC that use that style, and it’s their own brand (Woodtek), but oddly, they don’t sell separate bags.

Hopefully the shop vac will do well enough for me to get by for now. It remains to be seen how much I’ll use the planer, but now that I have one, I’m already thinking of how I’ll do some planned projects differently.

-- Clin

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#14 posted 06-15-2016 07:06 PM

A data point.

I connected to my shop-vac, Dust Deputy setup and it worked well. Did spew some chips when the hose popped off the DD due to the positive pressure. Hose clamp fixed that.

Now, this was not a very extreme test. I was planing 2×4 on edge, so it was about as narrow a planing operation as one would ever do. I will be on the lookout for issues when I plane a wider board. Though to some degree using the slower feed rate and making shallower passes may help if that looks to be a problem.

I was pleased to see that it doesn’t seem to generate much fine dust. My ambient filter kept the fine dust down to insignificant levels throughout the use of the unit. I have a Dylos particle counter. This gives me some hope that a bag may work really well for this.

Since this was my first experience with a planer, I was surprised at the volume of chips. They are very light weight as compared to the much finer dust from my table saw. I had to empty my Dust Deputy 5 gal bucket twice and it is probably half full again. I don’t let that get completely full, but I’d say at least 4 gal each time. Based on my estimates of what I removed from the boards, it looks like the chips take up about 8X more volume than the wood removed.

FYI: While early days, and I’m a novice planer user, I was very pleased with the DeWalt 735. I don’t know how it could have worked better for me.

-- Clin

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#15 posted 06-16-2016 02:26 AM

I did this- http://lumberjocks.com/topics/15116

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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