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TopamaxSurvivor

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04-21-2010 07:29 PM

Topic tags/keywords: oak finish finishing

My wife wants a shelf to set plants on in the kitchen window. I have a piece of oak that will match the cabinets. What is the best way to finish it durably? Wet sand to fill the grain, then lots of poly?

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence


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Scott Bryan

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#1 posted 04-21-2010 07:55 PM

That is really a matter of personal taste and how smooth you want the finish to be. I just like a finish to be smooth to the touch rather than perfectly flat.

Getting oak glass smooth takes some work since it has such pronounced grain. After staining, I apply shellac or poly until I get the build I want. I usually choose to celebrate the oak grain by leaving it proud rather than trying to get a piano smooth finish. I would opt for poly in your situation rather than shellac since it will be in contact with water.

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#2 posted 04-21-2010 08:13 PM

I would use poly. I would usr poly for the sealer too. Just delute the poly with 50% or a little more with naptha. I would not worrey about the pores in oak. I know lackuer will not stand up to moisture. Do not know about schallock. If your wife is going to have live flowers in a pot they will need watering ocassionally. there is where your moisture will come in.

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#3 posted 04-21-2010 08:18 PM

Poly doesn’t respond well to sunlight, either, which it’s going to get plenty of, being in a window.

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#4 posted 04-21-2010 08:36 PM

Hey Topa, my suggestion would be to top coat with a good spar varnish. Anything in the sun last for only a short period anyway. Spar varnish will definitely be easier to work with when it comes time to redo than a poly or an epoxy. You can even to to your local boat shop, they now have UV inhibitors in spar varnish to slow the break down of the finish.

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#5 posted 04-21-2010 08:37 PM

Three coats of Poly with an ultraviolet filter and lightly sanded between coats should do the trick Bob. Poly formulated for boats and/or floors should have a sun filter. Like Scott, I prefer the grain as it is, but I also like it smooth to the touch. With lots of direct sunlight you might have to refinish it sometime in the future, but that should take quite a while.

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#6 posted 04-21-2010 11:57 PM

Thanks for the responses. I forgot to mention it is a north window so sun will not hit it. Water is the issue, they will be live plants. I guess there is really no need to wet sand it. I got that idea form other posts on here.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#7 posted 04-22-2010 03:02 PM

I use glass on the plant stand tops I build for my wife.

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#8 posted 04-22-2010 03:22 PM

I agree with bladeburner. The glass on top would be nice. Just do a couple coats of poly, then put a piece of glass on it. You could even go one step farther and inlay the glass into the wood.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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#9 posted 04-22-2010 07:30 PM

It would be an awkward piece of glass to handle, 8 feet long. Good idea, might make it in 1/3s.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#10 posted 04-24-2010 08:55 PM

You can use two part epoxy thinned out with ether. A friend has done this with many species and I’ve seen test pieces 5 yrs. old in constant outdoors that are still worth saving. You can thin it to any consistency you want. We finished his boat deck, gunnells, and rub rail three years ago and they still look like they did when the finish was applied. This is in an ocean harbor….salt water!

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