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Forum topic by newplane posted 04-19-2010 09:38 PM 1455 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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newplane

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04-19-2010 09:38 PM

Hello friends, I was thinking of a purchase coming up and i wanted your thoughts. I have a Stanley collection of bench planes 3,4,5,6,7. (some need new totes and knobs, I have some nice cherry from a friend to replace them) some of them are refurbished with original blades and chip-breakers. I may have enough money to get Hock blades and chip breakers for the 3,4,5,and 6.

Or i could get a couple of the wood river hand planes #3, and #4 (I have read the reviews about them needing tuning) I am positive that the time that i would take finishing up the Stanley’s would about equal the same time tuning up the WoodRivers. What would you do? Get the Hock Blades and chip-breakers, or get a couple of the WoodRivers? Thanks and have a blessed day.

Mike

-- Dont just dream it, get up and live it!


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Newfounlandwood

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#1 posted 04-19-2010 10:12 PM

I know I love my Stanley’s. I am currently fettling them as I have the time. I would rather spend a day restoring a hundred year old Stanley than any amount fettling a new plane. But I really love old tools. It makes me feel good to restore an old tool. I have no knowledge of Wood River planes, but if they are similar in quality to footprint planes, I would say spend the time on the Stanley’s.

Dennis

-- My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them.

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Eric_S

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#2 posted 04-19-2010 11:30 PM

I have a really really old no. 7 Stanley and newer no. 4 and 5 Stanleys as well, and a very new and very cheap block plane (with sharpened blade). I’d prefer newer tools except when it comes to handplanes, I would take an old plane over a newer one any day. You can always buy used replacement totes and knobs fairly cheap on ebay or from handplane restoration web sites.

I recently upgraded all of irons and chipbreakers to HOCK brand and they are amazing. Just note that you’ll still need to spend time sharpening the HOCK blades when you get them. They are very sharp to begin with but you can see machine marks and the instructional tissue wrapper that it comes in says they need to be honed as well. Also note you maybe have to permanently widen the mouth opening since the iron and chipbreaker are so much thicker. This doesn’t take much time but requires filing of the cast iron mouth.

-- - Eric Noblesville, IN

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#3 posted 04-19-2010 11:44 PM

i would get the new pinnicle blades from woodcraft check out this vid i got i’m getting some this week for my planes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKotbPE22lo

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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MedicKen

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#4 posted 04-19-2010 11:51 PM

I just finished cleaning up and reburbing a Stanley #4. I replaced the blade and chipbreaker with a HOCK from Highland Hardware. I dont have many hours on it yet but my initial impression is WOW!! What an improvement over the standard blade and breaker.

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knotscott

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#5 posted 04-20-2010 12:07 AM

Keep your Stanleys and upgrade the blades.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#6 posted 04-20-2010 01:16 AM

I only have experience with wood planes and am unsure if there is a certain thickness you must have, but I will add that a woodworker by the name of David Finck sells plane blades on his site that are A2 steel and are a full 3/16” thick. The bevel is so large due to the extra thickness that they are a breeze to sharpen freehand.
Old tools trump new ones anyday. If your going to spend time using a handplane, use one that was made when you HAD to use a handplane.

-- Doubt kills more dreams than failure.

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knotscott

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#7 posted 04-20-2010 01:40 AM

sorry…duplicate post

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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newplane

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#8 posted 04-20-2010 08:21 AM

Thanks for all of the feedback friends.

Newfounlandwood—The Stanley’s that I have are in good shape, most of them I pulled off of EBay and needed some serious refurb. A couple of the blades and chipbreakers are so pitted that it’s not worth the work. Thank you for your prompt reply.

Eric_S—Did you have to file the mouths on your Stanley? If so how much did you have to file down? Did you file more on the #5 and less on the #4 and #7?

bigike—How do the Pinnacles compare to the Hock blades?

MedicKen—Did you have to file the mouth on your #4?

knotscott—I am rather fond of my Stanley’s and am leaning towards that direction

Skarp—What steel are the HBC’s? Did you use a new chipbreaker as well?

rhett—How much does he charge for blades? Do you use some of Mr. Finks blades?

-- Dont just dream it, get up and live it!

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newplane

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#9 posted 07-05-2010 09:02 PM

Looks like I will be making the order finally for the Hock Blades. I will be getting a couple “extra” toys,,um..tools. My lovely wife said that I should get something nice for myself for the sacrifices of this deployment. I told her thank you very much, and it would nice to get a couple hand planes. But folks let me tell you, ya sure being deployed is no cake walk. But my wife is so amazing, she takes care of my boys, keeps our household running tip-top. And still puts up with the Army, Deployments, and her crazy Irish husband,,lol. So while i was on R&R I bought her a new laptop!! Because she does so much for me and our family while I’m deployed. I’m excited about getting a couple new tools, who wouldn’t be! But I am so much more thankful for a great wife, awesome children, friends and family (LJ falls in both of those), and the life that I have. Well I guess enough rambling. After I place my order i will post some Pre-Delivery pictures of what will be waiting for me when i re-deploy. Take care friends and God bless.

-- Dont just dream it, get up and live it!

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knotscott

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#10 posted 07-05-2010 09:22 PM

Thanks for the uplifting update! You’re blessed.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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