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MyFathersSon

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04-16-2010 10:46 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question

This may be a foolish question—on any number of levels but—-
I use a couple of typical shop vacs to collect dust and to clean up during and after a project.
The vac has a cylindrical pleated filter that does an excellent job of keeping dust from blowing back into the air.
BUT—it also clogs up VERY quickly and I find myself alternating between vacs – using one to clean the filer of the other. I also sweep first to minimize the amount of dust the vac needs to handle – but then not having to do that is kinda the purpose of the vac.

Is there an alternative? a filter that would protect the motor without clogging every time it is used?

YES—I know I need to break down and invest in a squirrel cage style dust collection system and I am drying to be real good so Santy Claus will bring me one Christmas—but until then??

-- Those who insist it can't be done - should politely refrain from interrupting those who are doing it.


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charlie48

248 posts in 1924 days


#1 posted 04-16-2010 10:56 PM

Dust Deputy !!! I hooked one up to my Shop vac three weeks ago and havn’t looked at my filter yet , and it will still suck the spots of a big cat.

-- Charlie............Only time will tell if it was time well spent.

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Brandon Hintz

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#2 posted 04-16-2010 11:37 PM

Use the filter bags which go into the shop vac, I had the same problem till I started them. And as long as you’re sweeping they shouldn’t fill up too quick. Blow your filter and vac out really good before putting them in otherwise the dust inside the vac and will clog the filter again

-- Potential is limited only by imagination

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lilredweldingrod

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#3 posted 04-16-2010 11:47 PM

I use the Clean Stream filter and the Dust Deputy. They do agreat job for me. Try it you’ll like it. Rand

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eReplacementParts

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#4 posted 04-16-2010 11:48 PM

Try the TriStar vacuum. I have one and it works amazing. Haven’t had any problems with it yet. They sell new for over a $1000 but that is with their warranty, but you can buy a new one without the warranty by just searching for it online under 500 bucks.

-- Find Power Tool Parts - http://www.eReplacementParts.com

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NBeener

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#5 posted 04-16-2010 11:54 PM

Many people suggest taking a pair of nylons and covering the pleated filter WITH the nylons.

Please: no jokes. This one’s WAY too easy ;-)

-- -- Neil

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Pete504

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#6 posted 04-17-2010 03:19 AM

I use the nylons too, on the pleated filter in my 16 gallon shop vac that is.
They work great and the filter is much easier to clean.

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AWood

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#7 posted 04-17-2010 04:31 AM

I agree with Charlie48 and lilredweldingrod…. the Dust Deputy with the shop vac is the way to go. I used a 5 gallon chlorine pail with the cyclone mounted on the top and I only emptied my Sears large dry/vac twice when using the 735 Dewalt planer on 200lb feet of white oak. I cleaned the Sears hepa filter between each filter bag emptied and the vacumm litterly “whistled” the entire time. The draw back is the filter bags are a bit pricey. Good luck

-- AllWood

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PurpLev

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#8 posted 04-17-2010 04:37 AM

+1 for filter bags…. another benefit to this is – once the bag is full, you simply take it out , and trash it – as opposed to flipping the shop vac to empty it – and bring all the fine dust back into the air.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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308Gap

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#9 posted 04-17-2010 05:39 AM

The filter will work great for protecting the pleated filter but as the bag begins to plug up the cfm goes down and another bag is needed, the dust deputy works before the vac and captures 99.9% of the dust. Most of this depends on your own mileage in the shop. My pleated filter with the dust deputy has lasted about 1 year now and is still white, thus keeping cfm at max all the time. I consider the dust deputy one of my smarter investments.

-- Thank You Veterans!

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Moron

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#10 posted 04-17-2010 05:54 AM

FESTOOL.

no dust

easy clean

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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Rick Dennington

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#11 posted 04-17-2010 06:10 AM

Greetings Beener….. Can I borrow a pair of your nylons?...... I’ve got too fat, and mine don’t fit anymore,and my wife refuses to give me her last pair…. she said I could have her pantyhose, but I don’t have two filters to cover, and they have a hole in them, sooo… that idea is shot….....if you find a pair, snag ‘em for me….lol.

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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unklegwar

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#12 posted 04-17-2010 06:39 AM

I just put a Cleanstream filter in my shopvac attached to my Tablesaw. So far it sucks (that’s a GOOD thing!).

-- Eric ---- Wise Words T.B.D.

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MyFathersSon

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#13 posted 04-17-2010 05:07 PM

Many thanks to all -
To those who suggested the Festool system and the $500 + vacuum—-
I have no doubt these would be excellent approaches—but did I mention—I’m a poor boy.
The nylons over the filter idea—
That had crossed my mind – never tried it though.
Sounds like the filter bags might be the way to go for now—with a Dust Deputy purchase in my immediate future.
Especially if I can buy the cyclone seperately—-

-- Those who insist it can't be done - should politely refrain from interrupting those who are doing it.

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MichaelH

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#14 posted 04-18-2010 03:03 AM

+1 for filter bags. I have a HEPA filter on my Ridgid vac, along with a filter bag. No dust comes out of the vac and the HEPA filter is clean. I never have to clean it.
I like the idea of the Dust Deputy, but I use my shop vac for general clean-up around the shop and wouldn’t want to lug the DD around as I clean up the floor and benches.

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Vicki

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#15 posted 04-18-2010 04:34 AM

DUST DEPUTY!!!!! I’ve used the paper filter and nylons. They’re OK, but still a lot of dust to shake out. With the dust deputy I have increased suction and only have to empty the 5 gal bucket. No banging and shaking and brushing a filter. I screwed a piece of MDF to the front of my vac with a swivel wheel in the middle. I sit the DD on that and have it bungee’d to the vac so I can move it around my shop.

-- Vicki on the Eastern Shore of MD

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