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Forum topic by JBahou posted 04-13-2010 09:58 PM 1650 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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04-13-2010 09:58 PM

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Hello Everyone,

Looking at getting a table saw and I do not currently own one. I have been looking at saws less than $500.

Does anyone have anything to say about the DeWalt DW745?

What table saw would you recommend to a beginner woodworker that I can grow with and not have to “upgrade” soon after purchasing my first table saw. If there is a saw in a slightly higher price bracket that you would recommend please tell me about it.

I am also brand loyal, currently to DeWalt and Bosch. A lot of what I have read on this site and others is that Craftsmen has gone downhill on their Q/C and engineering. Not sure about other brands out there at this point either.

Thanks in advance to everyone who shares their opinions/experiences

-- Jack †

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#1 posted 04-13-2010 10:48 PM

Not sure on where you fall in terms of space that can define the type of saw you can have.

Typically I say skip the job site type saws which is all you’ll find in both the brands you listed (Dewalt ended their hybrid right?).

However if space is tight and a hybrid or nice used cabinet saw will not fit then you work with what you have.

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#2 posted 04-13-2010 11:04 PM

Any thoughts on budget or total spend ? Have just traveled this road myself.


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#3 posted 04-14-2010 12:14 AM

i woul go with a steel city they go for about $1000 for a 3hp cabinetsaw or take a look at what grizzly has to offer.

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop,

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#4 posted 04-14-2010 12:30 AM

What sort of work do you plan to do?

If you’ll be building even SOME furniture, then … I think you MIGHT be happier with a cabinet saw (there are LOTS to choose from, including a thriving used market).

If large capacity (easier to deal with panels), high horsepower (not bogging down in 8/4 hardwood), excellent dust collection, really accurate cuts with a rock solid fence, and near to no vibration genuinely are NOT that important to you, then … I think the DeWalt WOULD be a great saw.

I also KNOW the Bosch (4100) is a great saw (it’s what I have), but … one day … I WILL be upgrading to a cabinet saw.

It’s really NOT that there’s anything specifically and painfully wrong with my Bosch. It’s more that a decent cabinet saw will do everything just a little better, and a little easier.

But I had NO idea—when I was buying—what sort of woodworking was going to appeal to me. 6-8 months into it … I really DO enjoy the furniture. A cabinet saw really IS the best way to approach THAT, IMHO.

Best of luck, either way !!

-- -- Neil

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#5 posted 04-14-2010 12:51 AM

If you are really passionate about brand than I would think you could go to a Delta or Porter Cable in place of the DeWalt as they are all owned by Stanley Tool Company. Same shit, different pile… I am not saying that their products are shit though because I own alot of Delta, Porter Cable and DeWalt toos and they work just fine for me. As mentioned above, I would stay away from the portable job site type saw, you will probably want to upgrade this within a year or two of you buying the saw (I did anyway). Rather than going to a Hybrid or full on cabinet saw which can run you into thousands of dollars try looking at some contractor saws. They are beefy enough to do some nice work but they are also small and cheap enough to be easy on shop space and the wallet. You can also take a look at Grizzly, General, Powermatic and Jet, they are not under the Stanley Tools umbrella but they are good tools. Good luck with it and keep us posted.

-- A hammer dangling from a wall will bang and sound like work when the wind blows the right way.

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#6 posted 04-14-2010 01:04 AM

Hi Jack – Not that’s there’s anything wrong with Bosch or DW, but there’s really not much benefit in brand loyalty IMHO…if anything it’ll blind you to what’s really best suited for you. Most manufacturers have several models and several types of saws… there’s often very little correlation between them, and many are made by the same company. Most have good and some not so good models. Not to mention that things change faster than most of us can keep up with, so what was true even 2 years ago, may or may not be true today. Your research time would be better spent learning about the different classes of saws, then deciding which is best suited to your needs, and find the right deal on that type of saw. The vast majority are very capable…good alignment and good blade selection are often the determining factor in the end performance.

The Right Table Saw for Your Shop

The DW saw you mentioned is a portable jobsite saw…as is the Bosch, but it’s important to note that the biggest benefit of those saws is the portability aspect….they’re ideal for tossing in the truck and moving from jobsite to jobsite. For a home based shop, a full size stationary saw has many advantages … more table space (safer), more mass and stability (safer), more robust design, quieter more powerful motors, less vibration, often better fences, are easier to upgrade and fix, have better long term reliability, and have better resale value. A used contractor saw or hybrid are often the best bang for the buck, but there are several new saws in $400 to $700 price range that are plenty suitable….Ridgid R4511 (from Steel City’s Orion), Craftsman 21833, Craftsman 22116 (from Steel City’s Orion), Steel City 35920, Hitachi C10FL, Porter Cable PCB270TS, Grizzly G0444, G0444Z, and Shop Fox W1725 (Grizzly item T21853).

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#7 posted 04-14-2010 01:46 AM

I am just a hobyist and I picked up a Ridgid TS3650 off of Craigslist for $200 and it’s a great saw for what I do. A lot of fellow LJ’s own and love this saw. I would first look around for used saws before buying a new one. You might find a good deal and use some of the money left over for other tools.

-- Matt -

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#8 posted 04-14-2010 02:00 AM

I bought used in order to develop my skills. As I’m getting better and know what I need to improve I will move up to a better quality saw. Don’t jump in too fast, take your time and do what you are doing….asking advise. BTW, I bought a used Ryobi BT3000 that is currently meeting my needs…..$65.

-- Wow, that was easy. Just follow the directions and use some common sense.

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#9 posted 04-14-2010 02:01 AM

I bought a grizzly contractor saw and have been very happy with its performance and the price was under $500.
The one thing I did do with it was to build a cabinet to mount it to in place of the stand it came with. The reason I mounted it to a cabinet was because I’m short and wanted something at my working height. I have cut full sheets of 3/4” plywood with it by myself with no problem . The fence is rock solid and knowing what I know now I would have gotten one with the Bismeyer fence. The motor is a 2 horse and has plenty of power for everything I do. This was my first saw, I chose the contractor over the cabinet because of my height.

-- I don't make mistakes, I have great learning lessons, Greg

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#10 posted 04-14-2010 04:36 AM

I would recommend buying a used one first. Check Craiglist..

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#11 posted 04-14-2010 02:35 PM

Thanks Everyone. Yes, I am planning on buying refurb/used as I have seen they are much cheaper. I would love to buy a cabinet saw except I currently do not own my house and I do not have a permanent setup/work space. This is all great stuff to help me in researching. I think I’ll definitely look outside of DW and Bosch.

-- Jack †

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