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Forum topic by Frankie Talarico Jr. posted 04-13-2010 04:41 PM 3728 views 0 times favorited 158 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Frankie Talarico Jr.

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04-13-2010 04:41 PM

I love all the work everybody does, I enjoy taking a half hour or so to go through the posts and comment on stuff here and there. It actually became a hobby in itself. One of my favorite things to do is go through the projects and blog posts on the main page.

Please don’t take it the wrong way but…..

Is it reall neccessary to post each pen individually? Why not make a post with all your pens in one shot. When you post individually it takes others from the front page, Then the next thing you know you see 10 projects in a row from the same guy all the same pens just different colors. I think it kinda hurts the other posters. Their projects, sometimes far more interesting, get pushed off the front page, and they never get the exposure they deserve. I don’t post projects much so I’m not directly affected by it. But I am sure some folks are. I do look at the pens but it would be easier on the poster and the reader if they were consolidated to 1 or 2 posts as opposed to 20.

Like I said this isn’t meant to shoot anyone down. I love checking them out. I do look at all your pens too. I just miss the diversity sometimes. It’s almost spammy looking when you see the same poster ten projects in a row. I know its not, but it looks that way.

I’m sorry if I offended anyone with this post. But I”ll be the one to: point out the elephant in the room…...there he is.

Keep on cutting and keep the projects rolling. I love LJ’s and the entire community. I still want to see those pens coming as I’m looking at getting a small lathe just for that. ?Just consolidate to less posts. Please

If I’m out of line please tell me I am. But I think the posters will get a much better response from a single or dual post. as opposed to 10-15. More comments as well.

-- Live by what you believe, not what they want you to believe.


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John Gray

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#1 posted 04-13-2010 04:57 PM

Good idea.

-- Only the Shadow knows....................

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wiswood2

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#2 posted 04-13-2010 05:31 PM

No to pens are a like, you get a nicer picture if posted one at a time, but dont post one rite after another, I post one at a time each day, and I do miss a few days,
Chuck

-- Chuck, wiswood2 www.wisconsinwoodchuck.com

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john

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#3 posted 04-13-2010 05:35 PM

Sometimes i will build 10 birdhouses at once and although they all have different coloured roofs they still look pretty much the same .
If i do 10 of the same style then i consider it as one project and post it as a single project .

-- John in Belgrave (Website) http://www.extremebirdhouse.com , http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=112698715866

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Moron

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#4 posted 04-13-2010 05:48 PM

I saw an American Flag pen that was really cool, those little stars had me wondering how they were done.

that said,...............pen after pen after pen after pen. they all start to look the same.perhaps a seperate “spot for pens”. No offence but I prefer a pen the same diameter as a pencil, like the “Bic”

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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Clarence

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#5 posted 04-13-2010 06:04 PM

I too have wondered about this whole pen thing. Is there really that much demand out there for turned pens that so many people are doing this? To me, they would be impractical if for nothing more than their heftiness. I also prefer the comfort and disposability of a Bic or a Sharpie.

Also, just how creative can you be with a three-inch pen blank?

There, I’ve said it. Go ahead and slap me.

-- Getting old is a good thing, but being old kinda stinks.

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Abbott

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#6 posted 04-13-2010 06:14 PM

I have never turned a pen but I can easily understand why folks do and I like looking at them. I would also like to own a couple. If somebody has a few for sale at a good price and wants to PM me I would enjoy owning one for myself and my wife. Heck, I think I would also pick one up for my brother.

-- Ohh mann...pancakes and boobies...I'll bet that's what Heaven is like! ♣ ♣ ♣ ♣

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Tony Z

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#7 posted 04-13-2010 06:25 PM

Amen brother. This topic has been brought up before and i agree. You’re not out of line.

-- Tony, Ohio

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richgreer

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#8 posted 04-13-2010 06:30 PM

I would never want to do anything that would discourage people from posting a project and I really don’t care if they post 1 pen per project or a dozen.

In response to Clarence – - My wife owned and ran a flower shop for several years. I displayed and sold some of my smaller woodworking projects in her store. The only real money maker for me was pens. I could use $8 – $10 of material, 20 minutes of labor and sell them for $25 – $40. They always sold well. You can get your labor down to 20 minutes each if you make them in bulk (at least 10 at a time).

I sold lots of other stuff (clocks, bowls, bottle stoppers, etc.) but I seldom could get enough money for them to make them profitable although I did reasonably well with bottle stoppers.

FYI – My wife has sold her store and I don’t plan to make another pen for the rest of my life.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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jm82435

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#9 posted 04-13-2010 06:35 PM

I remember when a posted project would be on the home page for days. Now there are pages of new projects every day. It used to be considered really bad form to post multiple projects at one time as it bumped others off the home page. These days you are going to be bumped anyway due to the volume of project posts. And the volume of posts will increase evermore as LJs grows. I foresee a time that there are so many projects you may want to filter the new projects to avoid the categories that do not interest you…

-- A thing of beauty is a joy forever...

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#10 posted 04-13-2010 06:44 PM

i agree pretty much with the main point of the original poster. multiple smaller pieces should be grouped together. If i make a set of chairs, they go together. Last Xmas I posted multiples of several different projects together… an ornament, wine bottle balancers, candle holders, and a one-of-a-kind menorah piece – all in one project. whether it’s pens or something else, these should be grouped together.

i also agree with the need to filter projects. I dont care to see pens or model trucks, for example, so it’d be nice for these projects to be skipped on my personal page.

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reggiek

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#11 posted 04-13-2010 07:06 PM

I agree that if you have a bunch of smaller items to post…do them in a batch…don’t post singularly…but sometimes you turn one or two…like those…post…then turn a couple later and want to post them.

The easiest solution here is to skip over the pens if you do not like seeing them in single groups….I do this when I am not particularly interested in that project at that time…or if I have nothing to offer.

-- Woodworking.....My small slice of heaven!

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Rick Dennington

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#12 posted 04-13-2010 07:21 PM

Greetings all: Here’s my take on this subject, since it’s been brought up, and I’m glad it was. I think Martin should put a limit on on the number of projects and blogs…. say 1, maybe 2, but 1 would be better. And not allow the same person to post so much. Heck, I saw one guy on here that had 11 projects in a row, and another had 9-10… that’s ridiculious. And I agree 100% about all the dang pens on here.. 1 or 2 maybe. I’ve been here about 8-9 months, and posted ONE project, and a couple of blogs. I have helped some guys build my workbench and router table and posted a pix on the question, but mainly PM’ed them with the info and pixs. It’s gonna get out of hand, and noone will get to post anything. It’s like jm82435 said.. you don’t even have time to look at a project… it’s gone before the day’s out….. FWIW….

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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hairy

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#13 posted 04-13-2010 07:27 PM

Posting projects is what attracted me to lumberjocks. I don’t want to see a reduction in posts.

I have never turned a pen, and most likely never will. But I appreciate the craftsmanship involved. I would like to see more about the process. This is what I made, and here’s how I did it – that’s what lumberjocks means to me.

The same argument could be made for bowls, tool handles,spoons and and many other projects,and my answer will be the same. Keep them coming.

-- in the confusion, I mighta grabbed the gold ...

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lew

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#14 posted 04-13-2010 07:29 PM

The limit on the number of projects per time period has been beaten to death. With 17,000+ members, even a limit of one project a day- well you can see where this is going….

I don’t remember anyone complaining about the plethora of cutting boards that appeared here about a year ago.

It’s going to run in cycles. Why get so up tight?

Lew

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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Heidi Neely

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#15 posted 04-13-2010 08:09 PM

I’m right there with ya getneds, and I believe my man feels the same way. I do like looking at the pens myself, and comment on the ones I find really unique and cool…but it does get redundant sometimes when someone makes like 5 all basically the same in different woods and posts them one by one. Since a project post allows you 6 pictures, why not take a group shot and then highlight the best ones with single pictures in that same post…

I did that with my first 2 project postings here on LJ’s….I didn’t want to bombard the project page with 12 in a row, so I posted my various carvings all as one post, and my various toll painting wood projects all as one post.

OR....here’s another idea: make a slideshow (on photobucket or any one of the other photo hosting sites) like my BF does. It allows you to put as many pics as you want on it, and that way you don’t dominate the projects page.

We all know once a project gets bumped off the first 2 pages or so, it’s pretty much done being seen unless someone goes specifically looking at your work. People will post as they see fit, but I think in the end it just comes down to a courtesy thing. : )

-- Heidi :) “The only source of knowledge is experience”

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