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trevor7428

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05-29-2016 10:54 AM

So I just purchase the Harbor Frieght Mortise Machine. Just a quick question. What is the 2nd chuck for? One came already installed in machine and a 2nd in bag with screws/ knob/ bracket, chuck key, etc.

-- Thank You Trevor OBrion


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#1 posted 05-29-2016 11:16 AM

My advise is keep your receipt. ;-)

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#2 posted 05-29-2016 02:00 PM

I bought the Harbor Freight Mortise Machine. First one had problems so exchanged it for another one. The second one had the same issues. Instead of listing all the problems, I’ll just say it was a piece of junk. As rwe2156 said, “My advise is keep your receipt”. I don’t remember the second chuck.

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#3 posted 05-29-2016 03:02 PM

Its for use with regular drill bits. The machine does not have enough range of motion otherwise to get shorter tools to the work-piece.

I’ve had one for several years and it is just OK. A bit under-powered but I got what I paid for.

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#4 posted 05-29-2016 04:14 PM



Its for use with regular drill bits. The machine does not have enough range of motion otherwise to get shorter tools to the work-piece.

I ve had one for several years and it is just OK. A bit under-powered but I got what I paid for.

- RogR

Got ya, Thanks.

Before purchase I was reading some reviews online. The where alot of good ones about the machine. Wonder if this comments are rigged somehow lol or just show best ones first

-- Thank You Trevor OBrion

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#5 posted 05-29-2016 05:49 PM

There’s one of those HF machines in our valley and I’ve heard no complaints from the woodworker that owns it. It’s not a high dollar machine and he knew that when he bought it.

He said it works for him for what he does with it and he doesn’t expect it to work like a high dollar machine. He takes care of it, doesn’t push it and seems to be satisfied with it.

He also owns a HF contractors saw he bought back in the 90’s and it still looks almost as new as the day we helped him unload it. Taking care of your machines is one of the keys to keeping it performing and not trying to usie it for something it is not.

I own one of the HF lathes that I bought in about 1990 and paid $90 for it and I’ve turned 100’s of table and island legs on it. Even though I can walk in our millwork shop and have access to a larger commercial Vega lathe and a Delta lathe, the HF lathe is still my favorite lathe. The only thing I’ve done to it is change the switch and belt on it one time and I’ve turned 5 inch legs on it. I’ve taken care of the lathe, do not push the lathe, and have no plans to retired it for a more expensive name brand one. If it dies on me I would order another one just like it.

My advice to anyone is to never buy a tool expecting it to be something is is not and then complain about it when it doesn’t perform like a more expensive name brand tool.

-- Bruce Free Plans http://plans.sawmillvalley.org

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#6 posted 05-29-2016 09:58 PM

My advice to anyone is to never buy a tool expecting it to be something is is not and then complain about it when it doesn t perform like a more expensive name brand tool.

- bruc101

I was expecting the HF mortise machine to be able to cut a mortise in hardwood but it had so much flex in the stand it had no leverage to plunge the chisel without bending the slide tubes. There was so much flex that it would not create a straight mortise even in softwoods. My expectation was for the machine to do what it was made to do. I’m just saying it was a piece of junk and would not even perform at a minimum of what it was designed and advertised to do. I will say that the current HF mortise machine appears to be different from the one I purchased a couple of years ago. I do mortises using a router and gave up on the HF mortise machine and returned it.

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#7 posted 05-29-2016 10:03 PM

My advice to anyone is to never buy a tool expecting it to be something is is not and then complain about it when it doesn t perform like a more expensive name brand tool.

- bruc101

I was expecting the HF mortise machine to be able to cut a mortise in hardwood but it had so much flex in the stand it had no leverage to plunge the chisel without bending the slide tubes. There was so much flex that it would not create a straight mortise even in softwoods. My expectation was for the machine to do what it was made to do. I m just saying it was a piece of junk and would not even perform at a minimum of what it was designed and advertised to do. I will say that the current HF mortise machine appears to be different from the one I purchased a couple of years ago. I do mortises using a router and gave up on the HF mortise machine and returned it.

- WhyMe

If the chisels are dull and the drill bit is dull or not set up right, no machine will perform. I just bought a drill bit kit from B&D twist and brad points, the twist are so bad they cant even drill aluminum, and the brad points can hardly drill into plywood. Returned.

-- Knowledge and experience equals Wisdom, Michael Frankowski

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#8 posted 05-29-2016 11:42 PM

My advice to anyone is to never buy a tool expecting it to be something is is not and then complain about it when it doesn t perform like a more expensive name brand tool.

- bruc101

I was expecting the HF mortise machine to be able to cut a mortise in hardwood but it had so much flex in the stand it had no leverage to plunge the chisel without bending the slide tubes. There was so much flex that it would not create a straight mortise even in softwoods. My expectation was for the machine to do what it was made to do. I m just saying it was a piece of junk and would not even perform at a minimum of what it was designed and advertised to do. I will say that the current HF mortise machine appears to be different from the one I purchased a couple of years ago. I do mortises using a router and gave up on the HF mortise machine and returned it.

- WhyMe

If the chisels are dull and the drill bit is dull or not set up right, no machine will perform. I just bought a drill bit kit from B&D twist and brad points, the twist are so bad they cant even drill aluminum, and the brad points can hardly drill into plywood. Returned.

- conifur

I’ve got a Delta mortising machine and I can tell you now, when the chisel or the drill bit gets dull, forget about it. When my lathe chisels get dull, forget about it. When one of my carving chisels get dull, forget about it

I had a friend ask me one time, other than having to live with your ex wife again, what would be the most frustrating thing to me. Without hesitation I said dull chisels, dull saw blades, dull planer knives, dull jointer knives and worn out sandpaper.

OP, have you tried using sharp and decent chisels other than the ones that came with your HF machine, and are you trying to force the chisel or letting the chisel and dill bit cut the mortise at the rate it want’s to cut the mortise? I find that each wood type is different as far as feed rate on my Delta with what I would call decent chisels and drill bits. My Delta is faster on oak more so than the other hardwoods, maple being the slowest.

The HF machine I mentioned is mostly used for oak and maple but, he also uses the best chisels and drill bits he can find for his use.

-- Bruce Free Plans http://plans.sawmillvalley.org

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#9 posted 05-30-2016 01:01 AM


My advice to anyone is to never buy a tool expecting it to be something is is not and then complain about it when it doesn t perform like a more expensive name brand tool.

- bruc101

I was expecting the HF mortise machine to be able to cut a mortise in hardwood but it had so much flex in the stand it had no leverage to plunge the chisel without bending the slide tubes. There was so much flex that it would not create a straight mortise even in softwoods. My expectation was for the machine to do what it was made to do. I m just saying it was a piece of junk and would not even perform at a minimum of what it was designed and advertised to do. I will say that the current HF mortise machine appears to be different from the one I purchased a couple of years ago. I do mortises using a router and gave up on the HF mortise machine and returned it.

- WhyMe

If the chisels are dull and the drill bit is dull or not set up right, no machine will perform. I just bought a drill bit kit from B&D twist and brad points, the twist are so bad they cant even drill aluminum, and the brad points can hardly drill into plywood. Returned.

- conifur

I ve got a Delta mortising machine and I can tell you now, when the chisel or the drill bit gets dull, forget about it. When my lathe chisels get dull, forget about it. When one of my carving chisels get dull, forget about it

I had a friend ask me one time, other than having to live with your ex wife again, what would be the most frustrating thing to me. Without hesitation I said dull chisels, dull saw blades, dull planer knives, dull jointer knives and worn out sandpaper.

OP, have you tried using sharp and decent chisels other than the ones that came with your HF machine, and are you trying to force the chisel or letting the chisel and dill bit cut the mortise at the rate it want s to cut the mortise? I find that each wood type is different as far as feed rate on my Delta with what I would call decent chisels and drill bits. My Delta is faster on oak more so than the other hardwoods, maple being the slowest.

The HF machine I mentioned is mostly used for oak and maple but, he also uses the best chisels and drill bits he can find for his use.

- bruc101

Truer words have not been better said!!!!!

-- Knowledge and experience equals Wisdom, Michael Frankowski

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