LumberJocks

Grizzly G0771 - 10" Hybrid Table Saw

  • Advertise with us

« back to Power Tools, Hardware and Accessories forum

Forum topic by bruc101 posted 05-26-2016 08:48 PM 885 views 0 times favorited 31 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View bruc101's profile

bruc101

1077 posts in 3004 days


05-26-2016 08:48 PM

Is this saw a direct drive or belt drive? Is the fence on it any good? Do any jocks have one and can give me a review on it? I’ve got a friend interested in one but he wants a belt drive.

Thanks in advance

-- Bruce Free Plans http://plans.sawmillvalley.org


31 replies so far

View vskgaming's profile

vskgaming

81 posts in 1077 days


#1 posted 05-26-2016 08:55 PM

View bruc101's profile

bruc101

1077 posts in 3004 days


#2 posted 05-26-2016 09:27 PM

Thanks for the links. I called Griz and they said it was a belt drive saw. My friend looked at a $599 Delta hybrid at Lowes and he wasn’t impressed with the motor nor the fence on it.

-- Bruce Free Plans http://plans.sawmillvalley.org

View jmartel's profile

jmartel

6568 posts in 1612 days


#3 posted 05-26-2016 09:32 PM

It’s a belt drive saw. The fence is decent, but not great. It works well enough for now, but I plan on replacing mine in a bit.

-- The quality of one's woodworking is directly related to the amount of flannel worn.

View WhyMe's profile

WhyMe

614 posts in 1023 days


#4 posted 05-26-2016 09:58 PM


Thanks for the links. I called Griz and they said it was a belt drive saw. My friend looked at a $599 Delta hybrid at Lowes and he wasn t impressed with the motor nor the fence on it.

- bruc101


Your friend is in the minority.

View bruc101's profile

bruc101

1077 posts in 3004 days


#5 posted 05-26-2016 10:16 PM

What minority is he in? He looked at the saw and wasn’t impressed with it. I’m sure I’m in the minority on some woodworking equipment also. That was his opinion based on what he saw and what he’s looking for in a saw.

I’ve never seen one of those Deltas and personally, I like only belt driven saws also. That doesn’t make the Delta a bad saw, it’s a personal opinion of what someone does or does not like.

I wouldn’t want a Sawstop so does that make me a minority? I have a couple of friends that bought the Sawstop and later bought a Grizz and like them much better so they sold their Sawstops…personal opinions.

-- Bruce Free Plans http://plans.sawmillvalley.org

View Tideline77's profile

Tideline77

58 posts in 234 days


#6 posted 05-26-2016 11:09 PM

The fence on the delta saw at lowes actually looks like a great fence for a saw in that price range

The problem is most of the display models in the stores are not assembled correctly, especially the fence

View WhyMe's profile

WhyMe

614 posts in 1023 days


#7 posted 05-26-2016 11:46 PM

Saying minority was not correct in the context of what your friend was saying with having no experience with using the Delta. There are a lot of good reviews about the Delta 36-725. The blade arbor is actually belt driven but is enclosed. Also the fence is one of the best you’ll find on a saw of that price point. Looking at the Delta 36-725 and having my eyes set on a $1000 saw would make me not impressed with the Delta. I’m just saying don’t discount the Delta just based on looks

View jmartel's profile

jmartel

6568 posts in 1612 days


#8 posted 05-27-2016 12:09 AM

The delta is good in the price range, but if you have more of a budget, then the Grizzly hybrids would be better. If you have even more of a budget, you can get a full cabinet saw from Grizzly, but that puts you in the $1200ish range.

-- The quality of one's woodworking is directly related to the amount of flannel worn.

View knotscott's profile

knotscott

7210 posts in 2838 days


#9 posted 05-27-2016 01:43 AM

It’s very common for saws on display to be set up very poorly, so it’s really hard to judge just by looking at those. The fence on the Delta is about as good as it gets in this price range, and is considered a step up from the G0771’s fence by many. The biggest knock against the Delta fence is the two-piece front rail system, but that’s generally not an issue once you get it dialed in. You have to make the jump to something like a full commercial Biesemeyer clone to do much better. My guess is that any concerns he had with the fence are either with the setup (which can usually be adjusted), or he’s used to higher end fences.

The G0771 has cabinet mounted trunnions, solid cast wings, and a full enclosure going for it. The fence on the G0715P is better than either, but it’s more money, and has had some history of alignment problems that have supposedly been resolved.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

View bruc101's profile

bruc101

1077 posts in 3004 days


#10 posted 05-27-2016 02:59 AM

Thanks guys for your replies and I certainly thank you for your opinions especially on the fence. I’ve always used the 3 hp to 5 hp cabinet saws and we have several of them so buying a new table saw is not on my mind right now.

Money is no problem for my friend nor does he want a 3 hp table saw. He’s wanting to upgrade to a bigger and more stable saw than what he has now. I agree with you about the floor models you see in the big box stores and how sloppy they can be put together.

I caught up with him on our ham radio net a few minutes ago, after reading your replies, and told him to just hang on until tomorrow and I would go with him to Lowes to look at the Delta with him. As I’ve stated before, I’ve not had a look at the Delta so I personally can’t say yay or nay either way. He’s looked at our Grizzly’s, Delta’s and a General we have and he says way to much saw for me. I’ll let you know how it goes tomorrow.

Once again I thank you for yous replies and opinions and I’ve passed them on to him.

-- Bruce Free Plans http://plans.sawmillvalley.org

View Lazyman's profile

Lazyman

694 posts in 850 days


#11 posted 05-27-2016 03:20 AM

Before you go to Lowes, check out thetinman’s reviews of the Delta saw. This guy is an expert on this saw:
http://lumberjocks.com/thetinman/reviews

I bought the Delta from Lowes myself and I have no major complaints especially for the price. It is probably not a 5 star but it is a solid 4. Unless you want a stronger motor, there is certainly nothing wrong with it. It is plenty strong and relatively quiet for a universal motor. I am pretty sure it technically has a belt, it is just inside the motor housing. I think the arbor is a second shaft inside the motor housing. The tilting mechanism is rock solid and accurate which a few of the cheaper Grizzlys can’t claim.

The fence is adequate but not perfect. The 2 piece rail system works but takes some time to get setup and dialed in—probably the saw’s worst “feature”. One of fence faces is a little concave (the right side which I rarely use), probably because they over tightened the faces when it was assembled at the factory. Otherwise it works very well. My 2 cents.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

View bruc101's profile

bruc101

1077 posts in 3004 days


#12 posted 05-27-2016 04:26 AM

Thanks for the link and we’ll look at it.

-- Bruce Free Plans http://plans.sawmillvalley.org

View MrUnix's profile

MrUnix

4218 posts in 1661 days


#13 posted 05-27-2016 04:56 AM

Unless you want a stronger motor, there is certainly nothing wrong with it. It is plenty strong and relatively quiet for a universal motor. I am pretty sure it technically has a belt, it is just inside the motor housing. I think the arbor is a second shaft inside the motor housing.
- Lazyman

Just to clarify, it does not have a ‘universal’ motor. It’s a 1.5hp induction motor (notice the capacitor hanging off of it) and uses a belt to drive the blade arbor. The belt is housed in the arbor bracket assembly, which technically is the front mount point for the motor, as shown below. Unfortunately, I don’t think you can purchase either the motor or arbor assembly separately, so you are stuck buying both should you ever need to (and at a price of about twice what a brand new saw costs!).


(picture taken from this thread)

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

View bruc101's profile

bruc101

1077 posts in 3004 days


#14 posted 05-27-2016 12:50 PM

Thanks Brad for the picture. I think some folks used to call that a direct drive saw and I can tell you now, no way would my buddy own another one like that.

He had an earlier Delta model that had the induction motor on it with a belt just like that one. The belt broke and he could replace it for a couple dozen bucks, and it was difficult to replace. The day it stopped working and he found out the motor unit cost twice as much as the saw, the saw went in the barn to be forgotten about.

I also remember him having problems aligning the blade on it and the saw being louder than a belt driven saw like the Craftsman and our saws. A Craftsman is what he has now.

This saw is probably a much better version of the Delta he had but it is induction and he won’t have another one. As I’ve stated earlier, I’ve not seen the saw but will get to see it when we drive down to Lowes today.

Understand guys, I’m not bashing this saw and at the price Lowes has it and I couldn’t afford a larger belt driven saw, then I would probably purchase it above the other saws in the price range.

Be happy and be safe during this Memorial Day Holiday.

-- Bruce Free Plans http://plans.sawmillvalley.org

View JayT's profile

JayT

4773 posts in 1673 days


#15 posted 05-27-2016 12:59 PM


Money is no problem for my friend nor does he want a 3 hp table saw. He s wanting to upgrade to a bigger and more stable saw than what he has now.

- bruc101

If money is really no problem, than a PM1000 is about as good as you are going to find for a 120V hybrid table saw.


Thanks Brad for the picture. I think some folks used to call that a direct drive saw and I can tell you now, no way would my buddy own another one like that.
- bruc101

That Delta is a belt drive saw, not a direct drive. All of the newer hybrid saws have the motors inside the cabinet instead of hanging off the back, so every manufacturer comes up with their own way to keep sawdust and debris out of the belt drive and motor. What you are seeing is the shroud to do so.

-- "Good judgement is the result of experience. A lot of experience is the result of poor judgement."

showing 1 through 15 of 31 replies

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com