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Forum topic by Moron posted 04-10-2010 06:05 PM 1322 views 0 times favorited 4 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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04-10-2010 06:05 PM

I’m building a Murphy bed and using the following “link” for hardware. This hardware isnt sold in the queen size from Lee Valley but suffice to say, that it almost exactly the same configuration as the double Murphy Bed Hardware except for 1/8” in the thickness/width of the hardware

It would be difficult to underdtand my question if you were not familiar with the hardware, thus why I supplied the link. Note that the write up reads “easily installed”.........I’m not sure that I would agree with that.,40842,41271&ap=1

Some specifics. A queen size mattress measures 60” wide x 80” long. The mattress has to be enclosed in a frame and to maintain any kind of structural integriety, my guess is that the bed rails need to be at least 19mm thick/3/4”. means the mattress grew by 1 1/2” in both width and length with no provison for “tucking in the sheets”. Mattress frame must be 61 1/2” x 81 1/2”. Allowing 1/4” around for sheets, blanket brings the dimension to 62” x 82”.

I have a floor to ceiling hieght (fits under a 20” deep bulkhead (that hides heat/AC ducting) of a maximum of 85 3/8”. The mattress frame has to fit into a cabinet therefor assuming I use 3/4” for the top and bottom of the cabinet, 85 3/8” – 1 1/2”= 83 7/8”........subtract the mattress frame leaves 1 7/8”. An awefully tight tolerance considering I have not allowed for scribing to an uneven floor.

Any one think its possible ? Also considering that the hypotonous? is longer then the shorter lengths.

I cannot presently turn the bed 90 degrees due to room conditions albeit that might be the only alternative.

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#1 posted 04-10-2010 07:45 PM

no worries

I raised the recommended mounting hieght of the hardware to bed frame by 2” which in turns lowers the actual bed when in the vertical position., cut back the lid/header of the cabinet that recieves the bed frame so that the foot board becomes the header in part. I have enough of a cabinet header to secure itto the ceiling

Also been given the option from client to change the whole thing to double bed due to my concern that when the fulcrum point is raised, the bed might have a tendency to act like a mouse trap.

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#2 posted 04-10-2010 08:49 PM

I noticed they describe the hardware as single or double bed sizes.
I would think that they must mean queen and king are double sizes .
Never hurts to check it out though.
How much of the bulk head is actually used for the ducting?
You may be able to sneak a bit from there.

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#3 posted 04-11-2010 06:40 AM

Roman…..not sure but I would be concerned that the hardware is not capable of handling the extra weight of a queen size over the double. Just something else to consider.

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#4 posted 04-11-2010 03:22 PM

LV doesnt sell the queen bed hardware but Richilieu does. The gauge of the spring is different and the hardware is 1/8” wider. I just hope that it isnt too powerful for the double?

I spoke with the client about re and re the bulkhead. The extra cost wasnt really justified.

We have agreed to put in a Xdouble, gives an extra space of 5” .....make it fit.

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