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Forum topic by ELB posted 05-23-2016 05:17 PM 819 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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05-23-2016 05:17 PM

Topic tags/keywords: slot mortiser jds multirouter jig mortise

Esteemed online colleagues,

Why doesn’t anyone make a bench-top horizontal slot mortiser that is durable/repeatable but isn’t $3000 (e.g. JDS Multi-router)? I don’t want to cut dovetails, boxjoints, copy sign lettering, brew coffee, whatever with it. I just want to make make horizontal slots repeatably, accurately. I don’t really need/want to even make tenons with it (the TS does just fine for that). It needs a smooth functioning X-Y table with a decent clamp, and a sturdy, accurate, perpendicular motor mount (for the router motor of my choosing). That’s about it.

I see see lots of people have tried the grizzly horizontal boring machine to use as a slot mortiser, with all the associated drawbacks. And I see high end ($4000+) industrial units (e.g. laguna), and I see lots and lots of wooden shop made units. Please convince me otherwise, but at this point I can’t believe that over time even the best constructed wooden ones won’t get sloppy, worn, and inaccurate.

Or, if someone does make a good one that isn’t $3000, then that company needs a better marketing person, because I’m their target audience, and they’re not reaching me. If such a thing exists, I’d appreciate you fine folks pointing me to what I’m looking for.

Thoughts?
-E.


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#1 posted 05-23-2016 06:25 PM

I agree with this entire post.

I would love to see something simple, like this, available for purchase. Problem is, it would probably cost about the same as a domino.

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#2 posted 05-23-2016 07:38 PM

You described a Domino.

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#3 posted 05-23-2016 07:55 PM

How about a Rich line machine.Best machine you will ever own,Plus it’s made in America.Its expensive to have quality.

http://youtu.be/6VgpzrTk8vo

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#4 posted 05-23-2016 07:59 PM

Something like this work? http://www.eagleamerica.com/product/415-9767/horizontal_router_table

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#5 posted 05-23-2016 08:05 PM

Matthias Wandel built his own.

http://woodgears.ca/slot_mortiser/index.html

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#6 posted 05-23-2016 08:48 PM

Lock the blade out on a biscuit cutter and slide it across a table. Or clamp the biscuit cutter and use the “fence” and feed the material.

I have not tried it. It might work.

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#7 posted 05-23-2016 09:23 PM



Lock the blade out on a biscuit cutter and slide it across a table. Or clamp the biscuit cutter and use the “fence” and feed the material.

I have not tried it. It might work.

- Cooler

Sounds sort of dangerous to me. With a router bit doing the cutting there is no tendency for the bit to draw the work one way of the other. The rotating blade of the biscuit joiner would tend to grab at the work piece. You actually need to have a good grip on a biscuit joiner when you plunge the blade in the work or the cutter can move the tool off of the intended alignment position.

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#8 posted 05-24-2016 02:08 AM

No. Just no.


Lock the blade out on a biscuit cutter and slide it across a table. Or clamp the biscuit cutter and use the “fence” and feed the material.

I have not tried it. It might work.

- Cooler


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#9 posted 05-24-2016 02:09 AM

Yes. Exactly what I was hoping existed. Thank you very much for pointing me to this link.


How about a Rich line machine.Best machine you will ever own,Plus it s made in America.Its expensive to have quality.

http://youtu.be/6VgpzrTk8vo

- Aj2


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#10 posted 05-24-2016 02:12 AM

Of course he did.
He probably also built the video camera he used to record the video on the link.
Is there anything that guy can’t do?


Matthias Wandel built his own.

http://woodgears.ca/slot_mortiser/index.html

- Kazooman


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#11 posted 05-24-2016 03:12 PM

I am trying to figure out why I would want a horizontal slotter over my tenoning
I get tight tenons using the jig. Once set up it is fast to produce identical pieces. The long pieces are easily run on my table saw using a tall fence. I have a Delta jig and it is rock-solid.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiG_8Hs__LMAhUD1h4KHeaNCt8QjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwoodgears.ca%2Ftenon%2Freview.html&psig=AFQjCNHN0gFYtTm5L0iKCf-p0F292Ksmrg&ust=1464189162994712

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg-Q-3Q8CW0

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#12 posted 05-24-2016 03:16 PM

Cooler- yep, that TS tenon jig is great for tenons, but doesn’t make mortises.

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#13 posted 05-24-2016 06:14 PM


Cooler- yep, that TS tenon jig is great for tenons, but doesn t make mortises.

- ELB

But mortise machines do. You can get a Delta Mortise machine for about $400.00 and the tenon jig for about $120.00. So less than $550.00 total. How much does that horizontal slotter cost? ( have both)

Addendum: I looked up the Richline 18-8 and in 2009 it cost $2,450.00 or $2,600.00 including the router.

It makes no sense to me.

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#14 posted 05-24-2016 06:42 PM

I have been down the hollow chisel mortiser road – I gave it a legitimate honest effort over several years – tuned, adjusted, sharpened, upgraded, modded, and it didn’t give me the results I desired and I didn’t enjoy using it. If it works for you, keep at it. I’m looking for something that is, for me, more accurate and repeatable, and less fussy. Hence this thread about available options for horizontal slot mortisers. If there’s a different post about the pros and cons of a hollow chisel mortiser somewhere, I can offer some experience based opinions (still, just opinions though, to which everyone is entitled to their own).

I agree with you on the TS tenoning jig. That’s the way to make tenons, no doubt about it.

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