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Forum topic by b2rtch posted 04-08-2010 04:21 PM 1393 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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b2rtch

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04-08-2010 04:21 PM

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I am planning on buying a jointer plane.
I found this one on amazon, I like the look of it but is it any good?
Do you know this plane?

http://www.amazon.com/Wood-Jointer-Hand-Plane-Hock/dp/B001BYGAQ2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1270736146&sr=8-1-spell
Zen jointer plane

Thanks.
Bert

-- Bert


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knotscott

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#1 posted 04-08-2010 07:14 PM

I know nothing about it Bert, but I agree that it’s a really nice looking plane. The Hock blades have an excellent reputation. Let us know what you end up with.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#2 posted 04-08-2010 11:52 PM

I can’t vouch for the plane , however I have bought items from Zen toolworks and they are made very well (marking gauges ). As stated above Hock blades have an excellent rep. Check some of the other wood forums for reviews on Zen products .

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b2rtch

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#3 posted 04-09-2010 02:24 AM

Jerrys; I checked other forums and all the planes from Zen have an excellent review.
The last time I used a wooden plane was probably over 40 years ago, how do them compare with metallic planes?

-- Bert

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#4 posted 04-09-2010 02:30 AM

really nice looking plane i think the blade could be sharpened/honed up though. for me the wooden planes are hard to set the blade alot of tapping that’s the only thing i don’t like but you can set them for taking very thin shavings just like a metal one as for the surface left i would guess it’s the same, i don’t really know.

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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mole

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#5 posted 04-09-2010 04:04 AM

em, .. blade depth / balance can be adjusted, but not quite easily, and it takes some time, due to the hand power controlled by human. Those wooden planes are widely used in my country (Thailand)

take a look at the pictures of my planes, I didn’t attach any handle into my planes though..
https://sites.google.com/a/phreak.net/o-ww/home/tools/plane

Planes performance are good, yes, we can do very fine shaving with our wooden smooth plane. The wooden planes made by professional craftman is quite precise, i.e the gap between the blade and the plane’s mouth is very very tiny (1/64”). Planes are made from Thai hard wood, we only use China/Thailand poor man (hardened) blade though :D but then, Thai carpenters can live their life with just these cheap wooden plane
since long time ago.

These planes will cost around $21-$48 ($48 for a long jointer one.. may be 24”). About $40 is quite an average price… i.e it does not make any difference for 10”, or 15”, or 24”... same complexity in manufacturing + longer piece of wood.

For me, who has only these kind of planes, will then like to seek and try those plane which has more comfortable adjuster like Veritas’s :P (or E.C.E for wooden plane) hu hu

p.s I heard that these planes are suitable for Thai’s hard wood, and we do not have low angle plane though ! !

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#6 posted 04-09-2010 08:34 AM

I’ve got a little Zen Toolworks spokeshave, and it’s awesome. It’s my go-to spokeshave for removing a lot of stock, or for smoothing out a curve. I’m still impressed with it (and have yet to sharpen it) a year later. If it were me, I’d probably take the gamble just because of that spokeshave. But it might be a good idea to check out their reputation for customer service, in case you get a dud for some reason.

-- I hate finishing. I never manage to quit while I'm ahead. --Chris

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b2rtch

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#7 posted 04-09-2010 02:12 PM

Mole you have some very interesting tools.
When I was a kid in France we had only hand tools, may one electric drill motor.
We got rid of them I wish I had them today.
I read very good things about these planes, now I ma thinking about buying not one but tow of them because it seems that might not be available latter on.
I am thinking about buying the pointer and the ebony smoother.
My concern about wooden plane sis the ease of adjustment, they do not seem to be very easy to adjust but they are so beautiful!

-- Bert

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mole

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#8 posted 04-12-2010 06:11 AM

Yes, the adjustment is not easy, confirmed! But then it is not too difficult, these days, I will just put a mighty wooden plane on a table, insert the blade and wedge, tap the wedge but not make it too tight, then tap the blade a little bit to adjust the depth. If the mighty blade pop out too much, then I will tap the top rear part of the plane to pull the blade up. .. too much down, too much up.. yes, there is no micro-adjustment mechanism…

Just a little note,.. another factor that might contribute to another problem of imbalance of the blade (too much left / right) is the shape of the wooden wedge.. if it is made properly, then the problem is lessen.

My wooden planes are not antique though! ! just bought them 6 months ago. They are still in production now, but for the professional shop that I bought these planes from, they said that they will stop producing these plane in this generation (as their son do not want to continue the business) and the shop owner is like 60+ old.

gossip I just put an order of a veritas low angle jack plane last week sniff I will see it soon, how good can it handle end grain…...........

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