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Forum topic by Don posted 05-20-2016 01:27 PM 864 views 0 times favorited 15 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Don

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05-20-2016 01:27 PM

Hi folks, my daughter in law’s sister (dister in law?) sent me a few photos of a cake stand she purchased and it’s not a pretty sight. A three layer stand and each layer has a nasty crack in it.

I’m wondering, can the wood be squeezed back together and glued?
Should I try to fill the crack with an epoxy and hope it’s finished trying to destroy itself now?
Is this now ready for the scrap heap and a new one is necessary?

Thanks in advance for your opinions…Don

-- -- Don in Ottawa, http://www.donebydon.ca


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ste6168

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#1 posted 05-20-2016 01:40 PM

I would tell her to return it to the seller.

I would think you have no chance of squeezing it back together to be glued, and it staying. I think the best bet at repair is to use an epoxy fill. I would check the moisture content and ensure it is dry before doing anything. Otherwise, you are more than likely just waiting for more cracks.

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#2 posted 05-20-2016 01:46 PM

If it’s for a wedding and just going to be trashed afterwords, I’d just drill a small hole (1/8”-1/4” at the end of the crack. Then fill the whole thing with epoxy (blue painters tape across the bottom and side.

If it’s going to be used more than once, return it and get her money back. Don’t buy one cut like that as that’s going to happen almost every time.

-- The quality of one's woodworking is directly related to the amount of flannel worn.

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#3 posted 05-20-2016 02:21 PM

No fixing on this one ,just paint it yellow and put a packman face on it. LOL

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#4 posted 05-20-2016 02:28 PM

Show case the split as suggested by a1Jim:

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Ocelot

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#5 posted 05-20-2016 03:45 PM

Take a look at the cover of the book, Understanding Wood.

There is a disk like yours on the front cover.

If you read this book, you’ll understand why disks cut like yours will almost always crack like this. It’s almost unavoidable.

The author tells the story of going to a lumberjack competition as a child. One of the contests had lumberjacks cutting off disks like you have shown to see how many they could cut within some time limit. The boy thought they were beautiful. He asked if he could have one. Someone said “sure. Take as many as you want”. So he took home an armload of them, and was very excited by his new beautiful wood things. By the next morning, many of them were cracked already, and over the next few days, they all cracked. That experience ultimately led to him becoming professor of wood technology as an adult.

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Mainiac Matt

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#6 posted 05-20-2016 03:50 PM

Understanding Wood is an awesome book…. and Hoadley is the man!

-- Pine is fine, but Oak's no joke!

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#7 posted 05-20-2016 05:10 PM

Return it. The pith in the center is the problem, if the pith were drilled out you might have a fighting chance. There are ways to stabilize wood cookies with pentacryl but too late for that one.

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#8 posted 05-20-2016 05:28 PM

Return it or trash it.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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#9 posted 05-20-2016 06:08 PM

There is no fixing this. And more than likely there will be more cracks to come. These are very hard to dry without a crack.

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#10 posted 05-20-2016 06:10 PM

This can be fixed, right?

Nope.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#11 posted 05-20-2016 06:16 PM

From everything I’ve read here, you should be able to mix up a little sawdust and glue and you won’t even see the repair. Maybe throw in a bowtie just for character.

-- My “MO” involves Judging others, playing God, acting as LJs law enforcement, and never admitting any of my ideas could possibly be wrong or anyone else's idea could possibly be correct -- (A1Jim)

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#12 posted 05-20-2016 06:42 PM



Show case the split as suggested by a1Jim:

- waho6o9


That was my immediate thought. Just add a string of small (~1”dia) rounds of white wood.

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#13 posted 05-21-2016 03:11 PM

I wouldn’t waste the time or effort. The inevitable happened. With pieces like that, there’s really no way stop it, unless you band when its cut. Epoxy & glue will just crack & break again as the piece breaks under pressure. If it were me, it’d be firewood. The seller will most likely tell you he has no control over what the wood does as it dries & ages.

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#14 posted 05-21-2016 05:14 PM

We have a quorum, it can’t be fixed, so the next best things to do would be:
  1. trash it
  2. return to sender
  3. filling it but realizing there may be other splits later
  4. “celebrate” the defect by adding artificial flowers/mushrooms/moss or whatever
  5. ignore all suggestions

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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Don

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#15 posted 05-21-2016 09:23 PM

Well, if it was mine, it would be burning in the fireplace, if I had one.

I told her to pitch it, can’t be fixed.

-- -- Don in Ottawa, http://www.donebydon.ca

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