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wsievers

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05-16-2016 02:28 PM

Topic tags/keywords: mdf confirmat plywood furniture question dresser west elm patchwork

Hi everyone. This is my first post on here. I’m a hobbyist with a little bit of skill. My girlfriend and I are looking for a new bedroom set and it seems like everything that we like is no where close to our budget or if we buy used we’ll have to put a ton of work into it anyways (which we would probably do normally). We have drifted towards the west elm “patchwork” style. I definitely cannot afford to spend several thousand on a designer set but I thought that looks doable for a lot less expense. It’s basically a box with shelves and some of those shelves have drawers that slide into or doors on them. The plan is to make 4 pieces: long dresser, tall dresser, and 2 night stands. My goal is to spend <=$500.

My internal dilemma lies in the material selection. The legs will be 2×2 and drawer structure will be 1x’s and 1/4” ply. The drawer fronts and doors will definitely be wood or plywood at least so I can stain them the different colors. The boxes will be painted white so I originally thought MDF but with the health hazards, weight, and tendency to split or have screws tear out. I’m not so sure and I don’t have much experience with MDF. I don’t really want fasteners to show on the exterior and I know you can’t counter sink those confirmat screws. However, dealing with plywood sanding, edge banding, finishing just to paint doesn’t make much sense to go through all of that hassle. I have read plenty of posts about the pros and cons of MDF vs plywood and how MDF doesn’t belong in fine furniture but nothing has made one or the other a super clear choice for me. I want the set to last for a long time and possibly pass on to our kids or another family. Not hundreds of years or anything but I definitely don’t want it falling apart in a few months or next year when we plan on moving, where I’ll finally have space for a proper shop :).

What are your experiences? Suggestions? Critiques?


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Ger21

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#1 posted 05-16-2016 03:15 PM

If I was going to paint MDF, and wanted the best possible finish, I’d edgeband the MDF. So MDF or Plywood are basically the same amount of work.

I’d assemble the box with glue and rabbets. No need to use any fasteners. If you’re concerned, you can reinforce the joints with dowels, or glue blocks on the inside.

MDF is fine for this application.

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#2 posted 05-16-2016 03:37 PM

Try MDO per panel it is more expensive, but you have the veneer cores of plywood for screws, with an waterproof MDF layer on the outside, that takes paint really well. Also that thin MDF ‘overlay’ has enough resin that it is weatherproof, so doesn bubble up if it gets wet.

Learned about it from Norm for painted projects, the surface is glass smooth, unlike the grain of plywood that always shows through.

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#3 posted 05-16-2016 04:50 PM

Me, I like wood. Really, it ain’t all that more expensive for less than production quantities.

I’d use poplar for the carcase. I’d use clear maple for the drawer innards. I WOULD use 1/4” Baltic birch for cabinet back and drawer bottoms. And I’d go to town selecting just the right variety and boards for the drawer fronts and doors.

What the heck? You’re gonna live with it for the rest of your life and then pass it on to future generations. Why not do it as well as you can?

-- Jim Maher, Illinois

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wsievers

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#4 posted 05-16-2016 06:50 PM

Where do you go for MDO and other varieties of plywood? I live in Baltimore and they have a few plywood wholesalers around town but from what I can see they have a minimum orders or do not sell to the public.

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#5 posted 05-17-2016 12:40 PM

I get 1/2 and 3/4 inch MDO at Menards… (a midwest version of Lowes/Depot supercenter). It is made in USA.

Before they opened here, I bought it at ‘Metro Hardwoods’ in Kansas City (independence, MO)
http://www.metrohardwoodsinc.com/

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#6 posted 08-14-2017 09:07 PM

Thinking of doing something similar but was thinking of using gloss laminate instead of painting. But does anyone know where I can get them?

My kitchen cabs are white but there is a visible layer of clear….looking for something like that. Thanks

-- Learn something new everyday!

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#7 posted 08-14-2017 09:27 PM



Thinking of doing something similar but was thinking of using gloss laminate instead of painting. But does anyone know where I can get them?

My kitchen cabs are white but there is a visible layer of clear….looking for something like that. Thanks

- nmssis

The clear on your cabinets may be a clear polyester finish. I believe it’s a common finish for commercial cabinetry and especially so for kitchen cabinetry. Maybe someone else knows better, but this is what was used in a cabinet shop that did some work for me in the past. It’s a pretty tough finish.

-- Bill, Yo!......in Brooklyn :)

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nmssis

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#8 posted 08-15-2017 12:16 AM


Thinking of doing something similar but was thinking of using gloss laminate instead of painting. But does anyone know where I can get them?

My kitchen cabs are white but there is a visible layer of clear….looking for something like that. Thanks

- nmssis
The clear on your cabinets may be a clear polyester finish. I believe it s a common finish for commercial cabinetry and especially so for kitchen cabinetry. Maybe someone else knows better, but this is what was used in a cabinet shop that did some work for me in the past. It s a pretty tough finish.

- builtinbkyn

so white laminate n layer poly finish?

on that might you know where I can get white gloss veneer of laminate…cause if the gloss is good enough then I might get away with that.

thanks

-- Learn something new everyday!

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builtinbkyn

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#9 posted 08-15-2017 04:29 AM


Thinking of doing something similar but was thinking of using gloss laminate instead of painting. But does anyone know where I can get them?

My kitchen cabs are white but there is a visible layer of clear….looking for something like that. Thanks

- nmssis
The clear on your cabinets may be a clear polyester finish. I believe it s a common finish for commercial cabinetry and especially so for kitchen cabinetry. Maybe someone else knows better, but this is what was used in a cabinet shop that did some work for me in the past. It s a pretty tough finish.

- builtinbkyn

so white laminate n layer poly finish?

on that might you know where I can get white gloss veneer of laminate…cause if the gloss is good enough then I might get away with that.

thanks

- nmssis


Where did the white laminate come in? Also, polyester and polyurethane are very different. A polyester finish is a high solids finish. I don’t believe it’s very easy to apply without the proper knowhow and equipment.

You may want to search around the net to get some ideas on how to achieve what you’re intending to do.

-- Bill, Yo!......in Brooklyn :)

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nmssis

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#10 posted 08-15-2017 05:57 PM


Thinking of doing something similar but was thinking of using gloss laminate instead of painting. But does anyone know where I can get them?

My kitchen cabs are white but there is a visible layer of clear….looking for something like that. Thanks

- nmssis
The clear on your cabinets may be a clear polyester finish. I believe it s a common finish for commercial cabinetry and especially so for kitchen cabinetry. Maybe someone else knows better, but this is what was used in a cabinet shop that did some work for me in the past. It s a pretty tough finish.

- builtinbkyn

so white laminate n layer poly finish?

on that might you know where I can get white gloss veneer of laminate…cause if the gloss is good enough then I might get away with that.

thanks

- nmssis

Where did the white laminate come in? Also, polyester and polyurethane are very different. A polyester finish is a high solids finish. I don t believe it s very easy to apply without the proper knowhow and equipment.

You may want to search around the net to get some ideas on how to achieve what you re intending to do.

- builtinbkyn

thought that if painting gets too “hairy” then I thought I’d glue the laminate as the outer shell.

-- Learn something new everyday!

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