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Jim Jakosh

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05-14-2016 10:40 PM

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I was working the scrap metal drive at our church today and I bought a Mouse Hole Anvil.

It has the numbers 1 3 4 stamped into it and I did find that the meaning is 1×112# and 3×28# and 4×1# for a total of 200# and that it is.

Does anyone know how to find out how old it is?

I have read that the Mouse Hole anvils were made in Sheffield, England and this one looks like it has Mirage stamped into it. The ones on line have and different name- that of the manufacturer in them

It is 23 3/4” long, the top is 4 3/4” wide, it is 11 1/4” high and the base is 11 1/4” x12 1/2”. I’m thinking I would like to mount it on a 20”+ diameter log!

Thanks Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!


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#1 posted 05-14-2016 10:52 PM

Mousehole Forge anvils can be dated from their logos: (These are all cicra – about – dates and the words would be stacked):

1780 – 1795: MOUSEHOLE
1795 – 1820: C&A MOUSEHOLE
1820 – 1835: M&H ARMITAGE MOUSEHOLE
1835 – 1854: HENRY ARMITAGE MOUSEHOLE
1854 – 1875: M&H ARMITAGE MOUSEHOLE FORGE
1878: BROOKS & COOPER MOUSEHOLE FORGE SHEFFIELD WARRANTED (with the outline of a mouse and HOLE for the first time)
1879: M&H ARMITAGE MOUSEHOLE FORGE SHEFFIELD WARRANTED (mouse) HOLE PATENT
1880: M&H ARMITAGE MOUSE HOLE FORGE (mouse) HOLE WARRANTED
1895: M&H ARMITAGE (mouse) HOLE SHEFFIELD
1896: M&H ARMITAGE MOUSEHOLE FORGE SHEFFIELD WARRANTED PATENT (mouse) HOLE
1911: M&H ARMITAGE MOUSEHOLE FORGE SHEFFIELD ENGLAND WARRNANTED (mouse) HOLE PATENT
1927-1933?: OWEN-THOMAS THE OLD FORGE SHEFFIELD ENGLAND

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#2 posted 05-14-2016 10:53 PM

I found that on a forum so, not my words.

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bushmaster

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#3 posted 05-14-2016 11:54 PM

Scrap iron my specialty. Wonder what I could build from your scrap. You did get something valuable. I use a section of railroad iron to beat thing to death on.

-- Brian - Hazelton, British Columbia

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#4 posted 05-15-2016 12:48 AM

YES… I see the impression as MITAGE… apparently, the AR got worn off…
Then MOUSE under that… HOLE under that… and 1 3 4 under that…

Lands somewhere in the list that Andy Smith posted…

You know it’s at least 1911… and probably earlier than that…

My guess is 1880 because the words Mouse & Hole are separated; not run together.

Maybe a little soap & water and soft sponge might clean it up to see more of it?

For sure… IT IS OLD!

Good BUY!

Going to show a whole picture of it?

At 200 lbs, I’m sure you just picked it up and put it into your truck… right? :)

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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#5 posted 05-15-2016 02:05 AM

Thanks, Andy. That must say Armitage and mouse hole, but the rest is dinged up too bad to read. I won’t tell you what I gave for it!

Hi Brian, you would die if you saw what we threw away! Lots of round and square steel heavy wall pipe, lawn mowers, snow blowers , grills, bicycles, and a ton of new angle iron 1/4×3x4 and up to 4 ft. long! I was going to get a piece of track and then saw this and it will be all I ever need!

I bought an old long handle water pump from A Y McDonald and a fan that I’m finishing up right now.

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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#6 posted 05-15-2016 02:06 AM

Mafe, the blacksmith, would love it.

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#7 posted 05-15-2016 10:29 AM

Wow nice Jim, what a find.

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#8 posted 05-15-2016 12:17 PM

Hi Joe. I added some shot of it in the original note!

Hi Mark, mads surely would love it but it is a beast to handle. I have it on a roll around table and something underneath broke when we slid it on from the car. I may lift it up on the workbench with my hoist until I get a permanent place for it.

Thanks, Randy. We threw away all kinds of good stuff that I would have liked to keep but have no more room. I did get about 20 files and 30 taps too.

Cheers, Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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#9 posted 05-15-2016 01:48 PM

Great find Jim. I always wanted one for the garage but not quite that big. A permanent placed spot will be fitting for this one. It weighs more than me.

-- Dave, Downers Grove, Il. -------- When you run out of ideas, start building your dreams.

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#10 posted 05-15-2016 02:33 PM

That’s a sweet looking anvil. Sure wish I could find one like that.

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#11 posted 05-15-2016 03:36 PM

That’s a hunk-a-hunk-a iron right there

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#12 posted 05-15-2016 11:05 PM

COOL Old anvil!

Is it really 200 lbs? :)

Thank you…

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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Jim Jakosh

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#13 posted 05-16-2016 03:00 AM

Thanks Dave,Bob, Roger and Joe!!

Hi Dave. I have an idea for a mount that involves a 20”+ diameter log. I want wheels on it somehow so I can lift it like a wheel barrow, but when I let it down it sits flat on the floor.

Hi Joe, it is every bit of 200#. My 1300# hoist will lift okay, though!

Cheers, Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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doubleDD

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#14 posted 05-16-2016 03:32 AM

Jim, I think I know where you’re going with the 20’’ log idea, and I love it.

-- Dave, Downers Grove, Il. -------- When you run out of ideas, start building your dreams.

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Joe Lyddon

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#15 posted 05-16-2016 04:10 AM

OK!

You DID just pick it up and hauled it away!

... and I thought you were S U P E R M A N …... LOL
... we all know that you still ARE! :)

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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