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Forum topic by Todd Thomas posted 04-04-2010 01:40 AM 1278 views 1 time favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Todd Thomas

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04-04-2010 01:40 AM

One of my best clients asked me to help her friend out with her hardwood floors. I told her that I usually don’t do hardwood floors because, I have to rent the machines, there are a couple of guys around here that do it cheep enough that I can’t really make out doing them. I usually only do them for clients that want a real nice floor with a Waterlox finish. Her friend fits that profile. the floors are 70 years old 3” red oak. still in real good shape, except they have areas that the boards have separated over time leaving cracks. Normally a few little cracks is no be deal but some of the areas have allot of them averaging 1/8 to 3/16 wide with a few if the bigger ones going 1/4 inch. talked to her about redoing them floor, doesn’t want to spend that much money, husband has her on a budget. Come to find out she had them finished a few years ago and the guy put some kinda wood putty in the cracks and it is busting up and falling out. whew…...so I don’t want to make the same mistake….does anyone know of a product I could use that will:
Sand
Take stain
and stay pliable

if so I could really use the help….
Thanks
Todd

-- Todd, Oak Ridge, TN, Hello my name is Todd and I'm a Toolholic, I bought my last tool 10 days, no 4 days, oh heck I bought a tool on the way here! †


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#1 posted 04-04-2010 02:14 AM

todd ,
i don;t know if this will help you ,
the first job i did , the guys had layed down 2×12 construction hem/fir ,
with 1×2 redwood strips on edge between them .
it shrank very unevenly ,leaving gaps from nothing to up to 5/8” in places .
long tapers that varied back and forth .
after scratching my head for a while ,
i ripped wedges from redwood at about 3or so deg. and just fliped the
board over and over , moving the fence randomly ,
to make ’ v ’ tapers that went from nothing to 1/8” ,
on up to 5/8” to 3/4” , every size in between too .
i went around and would lay a strip next to the gap ,
and cut them where ever they started to be to narrow ,
and get the next size to continue .
put glue on both sides of the gap , and drove them in with a block and hammer .
they were up and down , but seated good , then i used an adze ,
and chopping down across them then chipped them off .
followed by sanding . we used a 4×24 belt sander ,
but im sure that if you can do a floor sander that would be best ,
it filled the gaps , and you didn’t notice the ’ filler strips ‘
as they sure looked better than the gaps .
that floor is still in use today , after 43 years !
i have done the same thing on a pine counter top ,
and you can’t even see what happened there .
and yea , i’m always looking for the ’ fix it ’ filler too .
good luck .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#2 posted 04-04-2010 03:44 AM

This product works well, I’ve used it for years. I’ve even repaired doors with mortise lock set cut outs and have never run into a problem.

http://www.duraseal.com/sections/products/cs/fillers/woo-patc.htm

-- Methods are many,Principles are few.Methods change often,Principles never do.

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#3 posted 04-15-2010 12:48 PM

thanks for the help…..Patron….your ideas seems to be a very good way to go….and that is what we are doing on the floor I mentioned above…..

It must be my week for floor issues…if you looked over at the home refurbers site http://homerefurbers.com/members/TThomas/blog/196
I’ve been re-constructing a home for my wife and I on the weekends the only thing we left in the house was the 4 outside walls and the flooring, we like the old distressed looking floors so we thought the floors looked in good shape…..that was until last weekend when we started to clean them up to refinish them….....over 75% on the floor has major separation between most every board, crack where filled with broken up wood putty…:-( way to many to cut strips for…the old houses here did not have basement in them when they where built. My guess is when the owners before us put the basement in, the house rolled a bit when it was raised up. we are going to take up all the flooring, about 1600 sq ft and re install it…...I know that when we put this old flooring back down, no budget for new flooring and we would really like to use the 70 year old floors, that it is not going to together in as tight as say new flooring would. I would like to try the Duraseal product UnionLabel talks about and trowel it on/in the small cracks. I like the idea of it staying some what flexible…I will let you know how it turns out.

-- Todd, Oak Ridge, TN, Hello my name is Todd and I'm a Toolholic, I bought my last tool 10 days, no 4 days, oh heck I bought a tool on the way here! †

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#4 posted 04-22-2010 02:17 PM

thanks todd ,
i too like unionlabels ’ duraseal ’ ,
and have bookmarked it for investigation .
as you know , putty just doesnt do the job too well for long range work ,
and after all that work , finding out the stuff only went into the crack
about 1/16 ” and gets sanded of revealing more cracks ,
is a real let down .
so i to hope this ’ duraseal ’ is the way to go !
let us know what you think of it .

-- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle

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#5 posted 04-23-2010 10:52 AM

The first floor, the one I came here asking help for, turned out fine….did the strips and it looks good….thanks again for your help. As far as the second floor , the one in my house, I’ll let you know how that one goes. I’ll try to get some pictures of the floor and put up.

-- Todd, Oak Ridge, TN, Hello my name is Todd and I'm a Toolholic, I bought my last tool 10 days, no 4 days, oh heck I bought a tool on the way here! †

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#6 posted 04-27-2010 07:12 PM

For future reference, I just found a product called “W-F-C” made by Wood Kote products. It is a wood filler that you combine with the sanding dust and then use the mixture to fill in the floor. Have never used it before but sounds like it would work great for the sort of issue you described.

Cheers

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