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Forum topic by Tooch posted 05-04-2016 02:21 PM 1392 views 0 times favorited 29 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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05-04-2016 02:21 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question table saw twisting lumber

I have been getting a lot of resistance recently from making basic rip cuts on 3/4” oak. Despite using an riving knife, it seems like the work pieces are twisting as I am making cuts, causing the blade to bind up on the outfeed side of the table. see picture below:

It’s pinching so much that the blade can’t cut the piece, and I’ve had to back out of several cuts. The green circle shows the kerf in the middle of a 36” board (measures 1/8” thick), and the red circle shows how it is pinching and twisting after the cut (measures 1/32” thick) .

So my question is- is this because of the wood? or is it a machine calibration issue? The blade is not that old, so I don’t think that is the issue.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

-- "Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too..." - Judge Smails

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#1 posted 05-04-2016 02:26 PM

It’s the wood. As you cut you are releasing the natural stress in the wood.

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#2 posted 05-04-2016 02:29 PM

thats what I thought, is there any remedy?

-- "Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too..." - Judge Smails

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#3 posted 05-04-2016 02:37 PM

I assume you have a flat face that is facing down and a jointed edge that is facing the fence?

For pieces of lumber that just don’t want to cooperate or really thick stock that my tablesaw bogs down on I will bandsaw them first a 1/4” or so oversized than use the table saw to just clean up to the line.

However you might also want to check that the blade is parallel to fence.

Hope this helps,


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#4 posted 05-04-2016 02:40 PM

It’s def the wood. I’m having the same problem at times. It has to do with the way the lumber was originally cut and moisture content of the wood(humidity plays into this big time). These are factors but the biggest part of the problem is when the tree was harvested and the moon cycle during harvest. An example is the old Mountian cabins with the wood shingle roofs. If those shingles are harvested on a full moon they will end up curling and the roof will leak. Always have to harvest on the dark of the moon and they will lay right. The moon affects the sap flow in the wood and in return will cause curling and twisting hence the problem when we cut. Even boards that are quarter saw and kiln dried can still be affected but not to the same degree. Hope this helps buddy

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#5 posted 05-04-2016 02:52 PM

Use a wedge to keep the cut open while sawing. Happens all the time, especially with pine I find. Two things I keep at the table saw at all times. A push stick and a wedge. Especially when ripping long battens.

-- Garry fae Bonnie Scotland

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#6 posted 05-04-2016 02:57 PM

Is the riving knife the same thickness as the blade?

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#7 posted 05-04-2016 03:29 PM

I went back and finished cutting the piece with the assistance of a wedge and another set of hands. Check out the curve after the cut:

Definitely must be the wood, case closed.

Thanks for all the input

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#8 posted 05-04-2016 03:41 PM

I’ve had that happen more than once. I’ve found that flipping the board end for end will sometimes relieve the problem. If not a wedge is about the only thing I know that will help.

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#9 posted 05-04-2016 05:37 PM

To much moisture in the wood. Can also happen with limb wood.

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#10 posted 05-04-2016 05:55 PM

The tension is releasing from the wood when it is ripped. Sometimes it comes together like that and sometimes it spreads out. I stick a little wedge into the drawn in part to spread it and finish the cut. Not uncommon!
But, knowing that happened, check the board that is cut to see if you need to straight line it on the jointer.


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#11 posted 05-04-2016 07:28 PM

That’s why I rip everything over sized on my bandsaw.Face and joint the wood then back to the tablesaw for the final cut.
Ripping down thru the middle of cathedral grain on a tablesaw yikes.

-- Aj

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#12 posted 05-04-2016 07:31 PM

thats what I thought, is there any remedy?

Yes, make a little wedge and put it in the saw cut.

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#13 posted 05-04-2016 08:25 PM

When this happens for me, I cut a bit wider than necessary and then make a second cut to the proper size.

-- JohnT

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#14 posted 05-04-2016 09:07 PM

I heard woodworkers say they put wedges in the saw Kerf when they get a board that’s closing behind the splitter or riving knife.
I just cannot imagine reaching out behind the saw blade and sticking a wedge in there.So maybe one would stop the saw insert wedge then turn the saw back on.
How is the wedge thing done, and I’m not trying to start a argument. Just trying to learn something I’ve never done.Thanks Aj

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#15 posted 05-04-2016 09:27 PM

I’ve inserted a wedge by turning off saw, walking around to outfeed side, insert wedge, back to infeed side, slightly pull board back 1/4 or so (release tension on kickback pawls if needed), get stable control of board, turn saw on.

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