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04-26-2016 07:22 PM

Since I’ve returned the HF router and table, I now have some extra cash burning a hole in my pocket.

I can’t afford the new router and table I want yet, but I think I can do a drill press – so I need some advice.

I had a table top Wen a few months ago from amazon and besides it not working properly, I hated it.

What I hated was I had to open the top, disengage the belt, move it and re-tighten it – I never did get it to re-tighten properly and returned the thing.

So, my questions are:

Do all variable speed drills work that way – manually have to move the belt? I really don’t like that feature. I’m thinking if they all need to be adjusted that way, I won’t be able to re-tighten it like the wen fail and I’ll just forget buying a drill press altogether.

I only have about $150 to spend, and I don’t need a top of the line drill press. I don’t do a lot of drilling, very little metal drill (but I would like to do a little).

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance as always.

-- They said I could be anything... So I became Sarcastic! They also said making drawers is easy... I think they lied :(


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#1 posted 04-26-2016 08:11 PM

Do all variable speed drills work that way – manually have to move the belt?

- jesinfla

No, there are drill presses that utilize electronic speed control instead of pulleys. The problem is that these will be well out of your budget.

Look for a drill press that has a lever on the side to help apply tension as you tighten it back down. These are much easier to use and get proper belt tension than some of the inexpensive units that skip that piece to save a buck. Also look for a unit with slow enough speed to safely use larger bits, hole saws and drill metal.

Something like this Craftsman might work, though it’s a little above your budget.

-- "Good judgement is the result of experience. A lot of experience is the result of poor judgement."

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#2 posted 04-26-2016 09:26 PM


Do all variable speed drills work that way – manually have to move the belt?

- jesinfla

No, there are drill presses that utilize electronic speed control instead of pulleys. The problem is that these will be well out of your budget.

Look for a drill press that has a lever on the side to help apply tension as you tighten it back down. These are much easier to use and get proper belt tension than some of the inexpensive units that skip that piece to save a buck. Also look for a unit with slow enough speed to safely use larger bits, hole saws and drill metal.

Something like this Craftsman might work, though it s a little above your budget.

- JayT

Cool thanks for the info – I was looking at that craftsman actually – the little bit over budget isn’t a deal breaker – I just need to wait an extra week or 2.

-- They said I could be anything... So I became Sarcastic! They also said making drawers is easy... I think they lied :(

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#3 posted 04-26-2016 09:37 PM

I really like my Porter cable floor model. It’s was only $320. IT’s got lots of nice features and does a really nice job. I got it at Lowe’s. I kept waiting for it to come on sale and finally gave up. I haven’t regretted it for a minute.

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#4 posted 04-26-2016 10:07 PM

I just bought the Craftsman – it was on sale and delivery was free.

Thanks again – hopefully this one will work out.

Now gotta build a table for it LOL

-- They said I could be anything... So I became Sarcastic! They also said making drawers is easy... I think they lied :(

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#5 posted 04-26-2016 11:06 PM

Don’t hate me for saying this but you seem to buy cheap tools and then when you realize they are cheap you return them. If you ant a quality drill press on the cheap then buy a used Dewalt, Delta or Walker Turner. Start cruising Craigslist – tons of quality stuff out there. You can adjust the speed of a 3 phase DP with a VFD, or Delta had a model back in the day where you turned a dial to adjust speed.

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#6 posted 04-26-2016 11:36 PM

What am I missing here …. I have a Ryobi bench top Drill Press and have never adjusted or touched the belt in over 10 yr that I’ve had it …. don’t us it much. One or two holes a weekend.

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#7 posted 04-26-2016 11:39 PM



Don t hate me for saying this but you seem to buy cheap tools and then when you realize they are cheap you return them. If you ant a quality drill press on the cheap then buy a used Dewalt, Delta or Walker Turner. Start cruising Craigslist – tons of quality stuff out there. You can adjust the speed of a 3 phase DP with a VFD, or Delta had a model back in the day where you turned a dial to adjust speed.

- dhazelton


No worries – you can speak your mind…

I buy what I can afford – sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn’t.

I’m on a tight budget, and don’t buy used anything – I can’t repair it if it broke so I don’t even look for 2nd hand stuff.

I stay off CL at all costs – I’ve never seen a good deal there for anything I’ve look at – besides I abhor that site.

I’ve bought some pretty good “cheap” tools – a HF sander works really well – got it for $40, a metal chop say from HF got it for $30 makes my bar clamps now – got a really cheap drill – dewalt from a close out sale for $40 and a really cheap circular saw for $30 craftsman works great.

I don’t return them when I realize they are cheap – I return them when they don’t work.

So yah, if this drill doesn’t work I’ll return it also and move on to my next purchase.

Turning a dial to adjust the speed – sounds perfect for me :)

-- They said I could be anything... So I became Sarcastic! They also said making drawers is easy... I think they lied :(

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#8 posted 04-27-2016 12:34 AM


Don t hate me for saying this but you seem to buy cheap tools and then when you realize they are cheap you return them. If you ant a quality drill press on the cheap then buy a used Dewalt, Delta or Walker Turner. Start cruising Craigslist – tons of quality stuff out there. You can adjust the speed of a 3 phase DP with a VFD, or Delta had a model back in the day where you turned a dial to adjust speed.

- dhazelton

No worries – you can speak your mind…

I buy what I can afford – sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn t.

I m on a tight budget, and don t buy used anything – I can t repair it if it broke so I don t even look for 2nd hand stuff.

I stay off CL at all costs – I ve never seen a good deal there for anything I ve look at – besides I abhor that site.

I ve bought some pretty good “cheap” tools – a HF sander works really well – got it for $40, a metal chop say from HF got it for $30 makes my bar clamps now – got a really cheap drill – dewalt from a close out sale for $40 and a really cheap circular saw for $30 craftsman works great.

I don t return them when I realize they are cheap – I return them when they don t work.

So yah, if this drill doesn t work I ll return it also and move on to my next purchase.

Turning a dial to adjust the speed – sounds perfect for me :)

- jesinfla

I agree, you want your cake and eat it too. Wont buy used thats ok, you know your limitations, but a DP that you want on your budget does not exist.

-- Knowledge and experience equals Wisdom, Michael Frankowski

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#9 posted 04-27-2016 12:44 AM

Yes, there is junk on CL. But there are also bargains by the ton. Just like there are BRAND NEW bargains and BRAND NEW junk in Harbor Freight or Sears or Home Depot. You just have to look. Don’t fall in to the trap that new is good and used is bad.

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jesinfla

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#10 posted 04-27-2016 01:19 AM

Sorry guys – but I won’t buy used power tools – not going to happen and never going to be from CL!

Used means possible break down and no way to repair.

New means warranty.

I appreciate your sentiments, but they’re not for me.

Here’s a challenge for anyone that accepts it – I challenge you to find any power tool that’s a deal in my area on CL – give me the link, I’ll go check it out and if it’s really a good tool I’ll buy it. It has to be cheaper than I can buy new and it has to work flawlessly.

I’ve looked and looked and it’s all over priced garbage – maybe you all have good deals in your area but not here.

-- They said I could be anything... So I became Sarcastic! They also said making drawers is easy... I think they lied :(

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#11 posted 04-27-2016 01:25 AM


Turning a dial to adjust the speed – sounds perfect for me :)

- jesinfla

You do realize that Craftsman still requires opening the top and moving a belt on pulleys, right? It just has the lever on the side to make it easier to reset the belt tension. You won’t touch a drill press with electronic speed control for your current budget.

-- "Good judgement is the result of experience. A lot of experience is the result of poor judgement."

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#12 posted 04-27-2016 01:32 AM


Turning a dial to adjust the speed – sounds perfect for me :)

- jesinfla

You do realize that Craftsman still requires opening the top and moving a belt on pulleys, right? It just has the lever on the side to make it easier to reset the belt tension. You won t touch a drill press with electronic speed control for your current budget.

- JayT

Yes, I realize that – as long as the lever works and it adjusts properly we’re good to go – if it doesn’t re-tighten that’s a different story and it will be returned.

-- They said I could be anything... So I became Sarcastic! They also said making drawers is easy... I think they lied :(

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#13 posted 04-27-2016 01:48 AM

That drill press is a very good tool, especially at that price point. I’ve had it for about 2 years. It has very little runout and pretty minimal slop in the quill. Just don’t expect a lot from that laser and I highly recommend making a table for it. Here's mine ;P

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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#14 posted 04-27-2016 07:58 AM

I find that the lever for adjusting belt tension on my PC drill press is much more effective if I use a persuader on it, such as a piece of pipe 6 or 8 inches long which slips over the lever. But then, I don’t change speeds that often.

As for tools breaking down, well, you have a lot more faith in warranties than I do. A good, solid used tool is no more (maybe less) likely to break down than a new tool of dubious quality. But of course there is junk amongst used tools, also.

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jesinfla

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#15 posted 04-27-2016 08:10 PM

Thx Kenny very niice table layout – way beyond my ability – but looks great!

Thx scissors – that’s very helpful info

It’s not that I have faith in warranties, but it gives me recourse should something go wrong

-- They said I could be anything... So I became Sarcastic! They also said making drawers is easy... I think they lied :(

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